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Fairphone 6 review: cheaper, repairable and longer-lasting Android (www.theguardian.com)
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[โ€“] idlesheep@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

I understand why some people have use for the 3.5 mm jack, what I don't understand is why in the world you would ever let that be the one thing that stops you from choosing an otherwise great phone.

You are artificially limiting your choice to an extreme degree over a feature that only a microscopic minority of people care about, and one that you can easily get over by either using a dongle or usb-c headphones.

The only thing you can't do is charge the device while using said headphones (unless they have wireless charging but let's assume they don't), but even then phones charge so fast to 50% these days that I never found this to be an actual problem. Unless you're listening to music non-stop for like 10 hours straight, but that seems unlikely.

It just feels so absurd to me that people hammer on and on about how this is an insurmountable deal breaker. I happily use my wired IEMs with my Pixel phone every day and never once have I felt like I'm losing out on anything.

[โ€“] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

To me, not buying a phone without a 3.5mm is the way I get my voice heard. I am voting with my wallet against taking away features.

I do not care that I am a minority, and that most people are happy to use Bluetooth.

I have very good headphones and I do not want to think about charging them and I do not want to fiddle with dongles that I have to pay for either.

No 3.5, no buy. Period.

[โ€“] idlesheep@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 7 hours ago

I guess you do you. But it just sounds like you're yelling at clouds to me when you could just have gotten over this by now. I've been using wired headphones with my usb-c port for years with no problem (phone about to hit 4 years, same dongle I've had for like 6 years, daily listening).

I cannot imagine hampering my phone choices to this degree (basically excluding like 90% of phones) just for a statement that will make no difference since the majority of people don't even use wired headphones (so I'm a minority there since I do use wired, I've just learned that using a dongle is totally fine).

[โ€“] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
  1. using a cumbersome dongle introduces a single point of failure for a port which is required to stay us able for your phone to function
  2. using a dongle introduces a single point of failure for your ability to listen to things, so you'd better hope you only have one pair of headphones, or that you never misplace tiny wires.
  3. using a dongle is an additional cost to purchasing the phone
  4. it's a matter of principle, as it is a symptom of the continuing enshittification of all modern life.
  5. using wireless headphones depletes two batteries at once.
  6. Sure, don't like a 3.5mm jack, despite the backwards compatibility with older headphones? Fine, but there is no good reason I can think of for there not to just be a second USB port down there. Additional data ports are good, and allow the device to be used for even more flexible, niche purposes, beyond being a redundancy against a single point of failure.
[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

fair point, but...just replace the USB port? it's repairable for a reason...

[โ€“] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Saying "not only should you have to buy a peripheral, but you should plan to have to replace the port every once in a while, just so you can have basic functionality" is just clearly not an optimal solution. As someone who has seen how >80% of the dongles you buy just fail to function, constantly destroy the ports they're plugged into, and sometimes just physically self-destruct when you stare at them from the wrong angle like some collapsing wave-function, I think I'll keep arguing for the added flexibility, redundancy and ease of use without additional peripherals which a second port would provide, with virtually no downside.

[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

but it's not basic functionality if it's only in 10% of devices on the market.

it seems like you're hung up on a particular feature of a device no longer existing and you have an inability to accept change. I can appreciate that.

personally, I hate vehicles with "infotainment" systems in them but they are installed in 75-80% of cars these days. nothing was better than the old mechanical radios with the big buttons that would "ca-chunk" the dial for you. the warm glow of the neon bulb inside dimly lighting the cab. don't even get me started on the entire removal of AM radios entirely.

if I were to let my preference for the radio stop me from buying newer vehicles I would be losing out on all of the important safety improvements made to cars over the last 40 years. things like air bags, seat belts, mathematically formulated crumple zones, auto-roll fuel pump sensors, etc. that's not even mentioning some of the comforts like power steering, AC/heating, EFI, rear window defrosting.

my point is, you have an option to continue using a headphone jack with an adapter, there are even options to repair any damage should any occur. I can't even look at my car radio like I want to replace it without a $4k dealer visit because it's integrated into the ignition system.

seems like a really silly hill to kill yourself on.

[โ€“] Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Bluetooth still can't use HiFi audio either.