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The chance of making things worse is always a risk, but like the original American Revolutionaries, at some point, we have to bite the fucking bullet and make the gamble, because the status quo doesn't seem to be heading anywhere good.
The American Revolution was largely a counter-revolution by colonial elites. It preserved existing property relations, entrenched slavery, restricted suffrage and replaced a distant crown with local ruling classes.
I'm not sure that's something to favorably compare to unless you're intent on historical revisionism.
You tankies are utterly beyond parody.
You can cry "tankie" all you want, but you can't refute any of it. It was a "revolution" led by slave owners who didn't want to pay taxes.
That doesn't make it a counter-revolution. Marx literally cites it as the example of a bourgeois revolution necessary for the development of a strong proletariat preceding a workers' revolution. Not to mention the issue was taxation without representation, not taxation itself, as both the States and the Federal government would impose numerous taxes of their own more or less immediately.
Much more nuanced than expected. Okay, yes, the American revolution was a bourgeois revolution, and historically progressive in the sense that it unshackled the forces of production compared to continued British rule. It was still far less progressive and far less admirable than the French revolution, though.
Diva was incorrect in claiming that it was a counterrevolution, since there was no preceding revolution to react against, but the rest is all perfectly accurate.
I'm an anarchist tyvm
Ah, yes, the anarchist position of vigorously bootlicking Russian genocide and imperialism. I keep forgetting that you're an 'anarchist,' probably because of the boot lodged down your throat, which I generally don't associate with anarchism. It must be a new strain.
Anything to get off to your favorite genocides, right? Of course, you have to play at Uyghur genocide apologia too. But hey, what's an anarchist without a little simping for [checks notes] the PRC having PEOPLE'S billionaires?
Not only is that a caricature that doesn't represent my position or opinions, it's whataboutism. The topic was how our government has always been a bourgeois dictatorship created by slaveowners. It's no wonder that a pedophile cabal ended up influential in such a government.
I believe this is you, fascist.
I just noted that tankie bootlickers like you are beyond parody. You were the one who objected to the label of tankie, all I've done is back up the point you disputed.
I'm an anarchist, I organize with anarchists irl, like multiple days out of my week, every week. Just because a turbo liberal who can't stop bootlicking american/roman empire doesn't like my opinions doesn't make me anything else.
lmao, a literal whataboutism in response to your literal genocide denial being shown. Hypocrisy inside of two comments, impressive even for a tankie.
Have fun playing "Sieg Heil!" games with your favorite Nazis, red fash.
You are the one who hangs out with nazis and does pro-fash historical revisionism on a regular basis
just gonna restate my original point one more time:
Also it's not whataboutism to say that I'm not concerned what toxic liberals think of me.
lmao, sorry that you think people who are against genocide denialism of the sort that you literally and explicitly espoused in the above screenshot are "Nazis", I understand it's in-line with the usual regurgitated Russian propaganda point wherein anyone who isn't bootlicking for Russian imperialist interests is a Nazi, regardless of whether they're leftist, pluralist, internationalist, or all three.
But hey, if you didn't have whataboutism and false accusations, you might have to actually address the fact that I demonstrated your genocide denial and bootlicking for Russian imperialism by your own, publicly recorded words. :)
Yeah, we get it, you're risible and don't understand what a revolution or counter-revolution is. Belaboring the point is just pathetic, like a comedian past their prime.
I identify the people you hang out with as Nazis because they're always either both-sidesing the genocide in gaza or ranting about wanting to be free from degenerates.
You seem incapable of criticism of America, because you have nothing in your life besides confidently regurgitating propaganda
lmao
Also lmao
Literally in this very comment section advocated/agreed with tearing the US down and replacing even the foundations. Even the most basic and obvious truth is so inconvenient to fascists, though, I know. Lies are so much easier and more useful to your pro-genocide agenda.
Also still no response to the actual points made, predictably. Without whataboutism and blatant, Trump-level projection, you'd have nothing except the boot. Which, as much as you love it, clearly is not enough. :)
You also were glorifying the genocidal slaveowners for rebelling from the crown when it looked like their gravy train might be ending, which is why I commented.
You never met a state department narrative you never swallowed whole, even if it came from the Trump state department. In 2003 you probably would have been in favor of invading iraq.
You are a campist for the first world, which is why you are incapable of tolerating criticism of it.
I have plenty of criticism for both 'camps'. I live in the US so for me criticism of the genocidal regime which purports to represent me generally takes higher priority.
lmao
Oh, is THAT why you're an outright and explicit apologist for genocide and imperialism?
not hearing any disagreements. Death to America.
Literally already pointed out a contradiction to your claim in this very thread, made by me even before we started talking. But literacy isn't a strong point of fascists, I know.
Sorry that you're upset that I quoted your genocide apologia, which you have continued failed to refute. Sorry that you can't quote genocide apologia from me, considering I don't fucking engage in genocide apologia, because I'm not bootlicking fascist scum.