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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Neither perspective is good if they are to be applied generalized. There are flawed movies I enjoy, there are supposedly perfect movies I don't enjoy. There are movies I enjoy because they challenge me and movies I don't enjoy because they don't. There are a lot of movies that I've already seen even on a first watch (looking at you, Marvel after Phase III) and dislike because of that and there are movies I watch because I've seen them before.

Often (not always, remember we try not to generalize) it comes down to what is expected, what is delivered and when there is something delivered you didn't expect, how well was the twist executed.

Having craftsmanship be a factor in one's rating of a movie is equally valid as how much you enjoyed it, as may be individual factors like historical plausibility, scientific accuracy or fidelity to the source material, if those things apply.

That's why I prefer to talk about movies instead of assign numerical ratings.

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

One thought I'd like to add is, not all art is meant to be "enjoyed", and there's value in art that invokes unpleasant, even painful experiences.

In a way, it's the opposite of the meme, something that can be worthwhile yet painful if it "lands", and boring/tedious and bland otherwise. Though I also know some songs that cover bleak topics that hit me personally, but are also absolute bangers, so those aren't mutually exclusive either.

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 days ago

I totally share that perspective. My controversial example is always fury road because it fits those criteria so well. It delivers exactly what it says on the tin. If you come expecting something else you're gonna have a lousy time. But if you come excited about what it has to deliver, you'll start noticing that it is engineered to near perfection with that one objective in mind.