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[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

UX/UI are only as bad as the client is. For me, Lemmy is indistinguishable from reddit (if you don't look at numbers of comments), because I use Lemmy Sync, as I used Reddit Sync before

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

I used Lemmy for months, mostly in the browser and my UX was absolutely horrible.

The default browser UI sucks.

I had to try many different settings and eventually through a lot of effort found the Photon UI, which is nice.

The vast majority of users just won't go through that effort. PieFed's default UI is quite clean and modern and much nicer to use, which is why I promote it instead

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In what ways does the Lemmy UI suck? I would appreciate feedback in order to improve it. For what its worth I only use the default UI on desktop and mobile, and like it a lot.

[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I used Lemmy for months, mostly in the browser and my UX was absolutely horrible.

The default browser UI sucks.

How long ago? It was a bit flaky a couple of years ago but for me now it's perfect - like Reddit UI before it enshittified.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but the default Lemmy UI is objectively bad, it breaks so many UX principles.

Photon is good, but go to Lemmy.world and it looks like a website built in the early 90's

[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If it looks like anything of the past then it looks like the web from 10-15 years ago pre-mass-enshittification, maybe people have forgotten what non user hostile websites look like.

Photon has infinite scrolling, which is horrible.

[–] Xylight 1 points 2 days ago

Infinite scrolling is optional and also a feature the majority of users (not hyper specific tech nerds) want. If we are to have any hope of bringing the average social media user onto these platforms, we have to design it for them. Most of the addictiveness comes from the algorithm (lemmy lacks a personalized one), not necessarily the infinite scrolling itself

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes there's been enshitification, but not everything has gotten worse. UI's are much better than the past.

Why is infinite scrolling a bad UX? It saves the user from clicking next-page

You could argue that it's dark-ux, but it's not bad-ux

[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It prevents you from keeping track of how much you've read and makes the site more addictive with no significant upside, and even without that it's worse UX when you try to go back and read something from earlier you have no idea where it is. Commercial sites still use it because they care more about keeping users on the platform than overall UX, but there's no need for software like Lemmy to do it. Yes, dark UX is bad UX, it's the worst kind in fact.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You're describing Dark-UI

Dark-UI isn't Bad-UX

Good UX = Easier to use, Easier to navigate, etc. Good UX makes people use your platform more because there is less friction.

[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago

If it works against the user's intention then I'd say that's friction of another sort. For example if you go to a website and scroll more than you wanted to due to dark UX (as opposed to good content), the user may not immediately realise it's a bad experience for them, but still they've wasted extra time hence the site has got in the way of what they were originally trying to achieve. It's become normalised so it's not always recognised.

On a personal note, I want to be able to go on Lemmy and say "OK, I'll read the top 2 pages of my subscribed communities" and let that be it, that's a much more reasonable way of approaching a large amount of content.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

I use the the apk called "Thunder" and it does a fantastic job. Much better than just using the website of here or reddit.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I tried out a handful of Lemmy apps and Thunder is what I used for most of it but then switched to Summit. There's aspects I like about both and aspects I dislike about both, but they don't have a bad UI.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

I honestly use the Voyager web client in my desktop PC, it works pretty well.

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay then recommend Lemmy with PhotonUI?

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Too much friction, and that's really bad UX.

And now you have to explain to people why the default UI sucks. I tried to promote https://p.lemmy.world/ to people, and they tell me to get lost with that dodgy virus link.

[–] Xylight 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Don't link p.lemmy.world. it's well over a year out of date.

phtn.app probably looks a bit less suspicious, and also lets you use any Lemmy/Piefed instance.

You could say it as "phtn.app is a web portal for the fediverse" or something like that because the concept of web apps is confusing to many

People are very sensitive and suspect of dodgy links.

If you tell someone 'hey checkout lemmy, PS the default UI sucks so actually go to phtn.app'

they simply don't click and think you're trying to scam them

[–] myserverisdown@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

That's just fine. Don't worry yourself too much. I don't know about everyone else, but I only want the people open to making a switch here. If you're so put off by trying something new that you aren't willing to give it a chance, then I'm not going to be begging for you to join my community.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i recommend trying out thunder, I just switched from sync.

It's foss and actively developed

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I’m checking in with voyager here, and I came from the reddit Apollo app and I feel the same.

It was practically seamless, though I’ve considered switching to try out other clients.

Tried Piefed and find it clunky with my current level of familiarity