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[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 7 points 1 week ago (23 children)

U don't discuss politics at work cos it's a politically unwise move that will alienate about 50% of people. That's the only one that makes sence

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Here's the caveat.

You CAN talk to your peers and people you work with who don't outrank you or can get you fired. In fact, this is important. You just have to know how to toe the line and not come off as some kind of radical who will push people away.

Most people I work with are DYING to express something or rant or rave about how unfair or frightening this current immigration thing is, but are afraid to broach the topic. If you just know how to ask questions and listen people will open up to you.

You don't DECLARE your politics on a Zoom call with your mid-level manager, you ASK people how they're doing in one-on-one calls or while having lunch together, and while people are feeling friendly or vulnerable and you give them support whatever they say, while explaining your feelings even if they run counter to theirs. You can turn people this way, but more often than not you will find allies.

It IS risky, I wouldn't promote it, I'm just saying it's not quite as hot-firepoker of an issue as many people think. (Your results may vary depending on your industry, state you work in, and skin color.)

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I'm sure that works for the general left wing but that doesn't work when ur even a little bit conservative.

You see conservatives are infinitely more tolerant of opinions they disagree with than the left is. I support deportations of illegal immigrants their is no way u can possibly say that without getting called a Nazi or fascist by a decent percent of the population who will go to extreme measures to fuck it life up.

Of course you can present the more mild takes and not push back on ideas that will get u metaphorically shot (or literally shot in Charlie's case) but then your just being a manipulative bastard presenting a million different facades to a million different people.

85% of Americans support deportation of illegal immigrants charged with a violent crime. And 55% support deportation of all illegal immigrants. Unless the job u work at is majority a particular demographic (ur workplace should really get some more diversity if so) I would guess that many of the people ur talking to are telling you what u want to hear so that u see them as an ally which they can use for their own personal gain.

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You see conservatives are infinitely more tolerant of opinions they disagree with than the left is. I support deportations of illegal immigrants their is no way u can possibly say that without getting called a Nazi or fascist by a decent percent of the population who will go to extreme measures to fuck it life up.

Our actual right-wing government is out there offcially arresting journalists, beating bystanders, observers, and protestors, even killing some of them. They're terrorizing people they disagree with.

The rest of us correctly recognize this as "fascist." An act of free speech with no threat or consequences attached.

You're observing this situation and declaring that "conservatives are infinitely more tolerant of opinions they disagree with than the left." Because the infinitely tolerant right is normalizing summary executions as official policy, and because the intolerant left is capable of reading a dictionary.

This is the traditional conservative two-tiered system of intolerance. A deliberate conflation to allow the bullies to paint themselves as victims whenever that's convenient. "He called me a Nazi, just because I want his neighbors to be brutalized. He's the intolerant one."

85% of Americans support deportation of illegal immigrants charged with a violent crime. And 55% support deportation of all illegal immigrants.

This just isn't germane to what ICE is doing on the ground today, because

  1. They're not focusing on the criminally charged or even the undocumented, they're kidnapping just anyone, documented or otherwise, they think they can get away with shipping overseas.

  2. They're not operating in places that host lots of undocumented, they're instead terrorizing states that have the smallest "problems" with the undocumented. States that voted against the president in the 2024 election.

  3. They're not following any kind of legal process, so there is no evidence that they're doing any of the stuff they claim to be doing.

It's not incoherent to support immigration enforcement and also be appalled by what ICE is doing. Indeed, if one values the rule of law, this is the position one must take. Because it would be incoherent to assert that on the one hand, due process doesn't matter, but on the other hand, borders and citizenship do.

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