THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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Liberals when they see shit like this: "Oh I'm gonna vote so hard about this!"
Chuck has a sternly worded letter ready to go.
Does liberal mean conservative where you are from or something?
Are we really doing this?
Can we get like, a fucking questionnaire people gotta answer, before the spout they dumb mouth off? I just don't have the fucking limits today when journalists getting snatched up out they bedrooms for shitlibs that don't even know the water in which they swim.
Liberalism is, and always has been, a center right ideology.
That isn’t necessarily correct, and there is zero reason to be an asshole. But even if you think that, you aren’t explaining why you think liberals would want a police state. (For the record they would not.)
Then why are Dems voting to increase ICE funding? Why are they voting to fund ICE at all, given that they are murdering innocent civilians and kidnapping journalists? Liberals like Chucklefuck Schumer are literally enabling the fascist regime every step of the way, and you claim they’re somehow above a police state?
You’re trolling, or delusional about what liberals are all about. Here’s a hint: protect capital at all costs.
Because dems aren’t all liberal?
No its necessarily correct.
Historically correct, and as its applied today, correct.
You still didn’t answer my question.
A fish which doesn't know it lives in the sea doesn't deserve an answer.
Bye troll. I hope you have fun.
You not knowing what a political ideology isn't doesn't make you a troll, it just makes you an idiot.
Ah yes liberalism. The center right ideology which is famously critical of freedoms of speech and the press 🙄.
EDIT: I can't believe I'm saying this, but read theory. Liberal isn't just literally everything that isn't leftism, monarchy, or feudalism.
I don't get the downvotes here. I read it as frustration at the number of people that seem to think the current state of the USA is something that can be fixed at the next election - when it's clear to anyone with half a brain that it's way beyond that. We're already at the point where high profile journalists are being arrested and Nov. is still nine months away!
There's a proper order to making change like this, called the four boxes of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box. They are to be used in that order. The soap box is currently in use across the country, and so far there still is the chance to use the ballot box. Unless and until that option fails violence is only going to make things worse.
The US is running concentration camps and killing civilians and prisoners alike, while being accused of no crimes.
Your privilege is showing.