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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'm poor as shit and I've never been affected by immigrants raising the cost of living or taking jobs.

Raising costs are caused by greedy business owners raising prices, and the lack of jobs is caused by greedy business owners only hiring skeleton crews and making them work harder for less.

[–] GoddessLabsOnline@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't think flooding the labor force reduces the value of labor? If it was harder for business owners to just replace you, don't you think that would increase your ability to barter for better conditions, and wage?

On-top of that, do you not agree that flooding the population of an area can create greater demand on it's resources, like housing and food, which allows businesses to charge higher?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Untill you can show an example of that actually happening somewhere, no. I don't.

[–] GoddessLabsOnline@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Alright. So you said you're poor as fuck in your previous comment. So are you telling me there's just abundant jobs in your area but zero ability for social mobility on your part?

There's proof of what I'm saying everywhere, but if you're conditioned not to see it no amount of proof is going to matter.

For me the one major pivotal point was seeing how much new housing we're building vs the immigration numbers. Another was when I was working in a job with no future, I was at a customer's business, and it's a place I had applied to previously, and the manager was complaining to someone about needing to renew a workers visa. People frequently make the argument that immigrants take jobs that no one else wants. Having lived in poverty for years working with other people in my situation, I know that's not the case. I know there's ton of people killing themselves looking for upwards mobility.

Another situation that's more recent. 10 years ago I moved to find work because my local economy was dead. This year I moved back. I looked for work all over within a 5 hour radius of my home city. #1, I wouldn't get call backs for jobs I had years of experience in.^1^ #2, There's no housing! There's no affordable rental units! - All that said, do you know what else I saw this year? A new immigration program to bring people to my area. - I literally had to move across the fucking country to get ahead in life, to find work, and I'm watching in real time as my city that's been in a perpetual recession for 15 years gets flooded with new labor.

Are greed businesses to blame? Absolutely! But one of the major mechanisms they use to keep wages low is flooding the market with cheap labor. It's a simple matter of leverage.

^1^just to be clear, my KPIs are in the top 95%, my employee reviews are through the roof, I've had my old employers pretty much beg me to come back to work.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Long winded anecdotes aren't proof. That's why this bullshit won't matter to anyone with half a brain.

If you can't provide actual evidence of what you claim, your racist ass can fuck off.

The only racist here is you bud. The reality is... you have no problem creating a two-tiered system that promotes worker exploitation and creates racial underclasses, it feeds your superiority complex. Nothing I said relies on the anecdotal nature of my comment to be 'proof'. All I'm doing the laying out the logic to see what's right in front of your eyes.

Also, unfortunately I agree with you, nothing I've said will matter to 95% of people. I actually wish what I said would appeal to people with half a brain, but it won't.

Anyways, you can go back to sticking your head in the sand. Enjoy ✌️

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, my point was that even though educated people would agree, you would push the uneducated further with rhetoric like.

Having said that, that’s not a problem with an audience such as us.