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Im stuck with an s23 for a while yet. Is it even worth the trouble of trying to use f droid, shutting off google play services and disabling all the other shit on my phone, when at its core its all spyware?

I really wish an alternative existed that wasn't just a prototype or $1000.

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[–] bruzzard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I jumped through hoops with the Samsung. ADB-ed the hexk out of it and broke functionality in so many ways.

If I can save you the effort - DON'T even bother trying. There is just too much interconnectedness to undo without breakage.

I moved to a hunch of Pixels running Graphene and have lived happily ever after.

With the added Israeli spyware coming to Samsung, I cannot think of any reason to put any effort into it.

Additional info: Skip the Pixel 6 and 7. Its better to spend a little more in the Pixel 8. I got mine used and its brilliant. I also liked how the Pixels 4 and 5 were as well. Very good devices.

[–] somegeek@programming.dev -1 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Very wierd of you to assume there will be spyware on samsung but not google phones

[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They aren’t running Google software, they’re using GrapheneOS. And the spyware they’re referring to on Samsung phones is very pubic knowledge, just as the data collection and surveillance in stock Pixel software is. But that’s not relevant

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ever heard of hardware backdoors and spyware?

[–] bruzzard@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Perhaps you have some useful suggestions to share. Always happy to listen and learn.

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

If you install Graphene OS on the Pixel you will start with 0 bloat wear.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Samsung phones have hardware kill switches, so it is impossible to turn the spyware off without fully breaking functionality. Older pixels are fully rootable, so you can fully remove any spyware from the root level, not just disable at the os gui level like samsung