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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Talk about a brutal self-inflicted injury. We were worried about the local cops and military backing MAGA, and the unprofessional and reprehensible behavior of the ICE Apes has driven them to our side.

I'm sure MAGA was counting on ICE to intimidate people away from the polls in swing states in November. Now I think there is a pretty good chance that the local cops and National Guard will be there to ensure the polls are safe. If nothing else, it gives governors the excuse to make sure the polls are strongly secure.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

National guard can be commandeered first half plausible excuse his scotus will take, federalized by federals, other states brought in, etc. Even active duty military with cause as scotus sees fit.

What the feds know, they executed two white middle class people under false pretense, slandered them to excuse it, and saw the state not file murder charges, and not do anything in retaliation. Forced off the murder scene by a handful of feds, ceding the 10th amendment to transparent slander. They know their part of the population supports murdering middle class do gooder whites. They are heroes, finally.

There is nothing to celebrate, the precedents are set. Dems will not even defend their own people in their own state with irrefutable video evidence. Nevermind convicting, they refuse to even charge.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I feel and share nearly all of your well deserved contempt for the Democratic party.

But this is a W. National Guard is not with the cops in Minny. Maybe that won't be the case in Oklahoma or San Francisco, but it is here.

Take the W, thank these Guards for solidarity, keep that blowtorch aimed at the DNC.

At least that's my opinion.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 15 hours ago

The national guard works for the Governor, unless the president calls an emergency. There was a way to do that already, but lawmakers, including democrats, around 2009 expanded the ability to seize control of a national guard in a self declared emergency, apparently the thought that a want to be dictator would abuse the power never occurred to them.

So yes, it might help and it's good the governor is trying to do something.. But the lack of charges, and the lack of air support for charges, of holy hell being raised, is license for the feds to continue abusing people with impunity. The precedent is set, under these new rules the feds could shoot the governor in the head and not face charges either. Point being there needs to be state murder charges. It's preposterous to claim the feds have immunity from state laws, and directly contradicts the constitution.

The feds aren't investigating criminally, and if they did it would be to give their guys a pass. But they are just investigating the use of force, like if proper procedure was followed, and that just to quiet outrage. As per the NYTimes.

Anyway, it's a pyhric victory, if one could even call it that. With perpetrators getting off scot free, no consequences after setting the precedent of executing citizens then accusing them of being terrorists to justify it, investigating their friends and protesters in their favor, and of course creating secret lists of terrorists to discriminate against in a thousand ways that we will not know about.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My old PCP was also in the national guard for my state, and he was a good guy, and a PA. I think when it comes to state level national guard, Trump and his MAGAt financers have seriously misread the room, and it will probably end up tying their own noose.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

The one person I knew who was in the national guard, I worked with, and he was the sweetest guy. Liked playing House Flipper on weekends , and was all around upstanding and good natured.

Despite everything, I seriously do believe there are more of "us" than them.

Ol' Smedley Butler shoulda taught em all about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler