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Tim Waltz's response to today's killing. A man of inaction. (news.abolish.capital)

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/minnesota-national-guard-hand-donuts-081800834.html

Minnesota National Guard Hand Out Donuts and Coffee to Anti-ICE Protesters

Members of the Minnesota National Guard were seen handing out donuts and coffee to protesters in St Paul on Sunday, January 25.

This footage was captured by Anthony Cabassa, who said that National Guard members “were given reflective vests” so protesters wouldn’t “confuse them with federal agents.”

A member of the National Guard told WCCO that the interaction was a “demonstration of safety and security.” Credit: Anthony Cabassa via Storyful

Seems that the Guard is deploying on the side of the citizens, the people, the protestors... things could of course change, but there's an update for you.

Perhaps also worth noting that in the Twin Cities, when this is going on right now, it has been like -10F to -20F, roughly -6C to -11C.

Standing around and handing out refreshments in that kind of weather is a bit more meaningful when its that damn cold, imo.

[–] RedWizard@news.abolish.capital 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Handing out Donuts and Coffee is PR. It's not "siding with the citizens". When they put their bodies between ICE and the people, they are protecting ICE. When they're deployed to the Whipple federal building, they're not doing it to push ICE out of the city, or state, but to shield them from citizens.

“Our demand today is for federal agents in our City to act with the discipline and integrity we expect of our own officers every day,” said O’Hara. “We know there’s a lot of anger, but we also ask our community to be peaceful while we work through the details of this tragedy.”

That was the demand when the city requested aid from the guard on the 24th. The real question is, what do guard members do when a group of ICE agents execute another citizen in broad daylight, right in their sight line? What do you think the guard will do? When they attempt to subdue another citizen journalist or legal observer, are they going to get between ICE and the citizen, or are they going to get between the other citizens and ICE?

How much has the guard changed since Kent State, is the question you really need to ask yourself.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Agreed totally.

I guess I'm just... overly relieved?... that they're not actively shadowing ICE as ICE's body guards, the way that local police normally do.

That they're bothering to do PR is at this point shocking to me, given how much of the rest of the military, and the Guard and Marines in LA, basically just grumbled a bit and then followed orders, cockamamie as they were.

An incredibly low bar to clear, certainly, ... I am ... too used to everything going just about as badly as it possibly could, about as fast as it possibly could.

But yes, you are completely correct in everything you say.

[–] RedWizard@news.abolish.capital 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, I think these are positive signs that's true. I worry these kinds of developments will build a kind of complacency. The difference is that these folks are under state orders, not federal orders. They're from the state, not from out of state. These are important characteristics.

But we should also remember that Kent State happened on state orders.

Accept the good will. But always be vigilante. Hopefully the locals are striking up conversation with these guard members. Giving them their perspectives.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

So... ... Trump can just supersede the governor and assume command of the unit if he wanted to, right?

... or does that fall into another kind of technical legal / COC unprecedented anomaly category if you try to work out the specifics, so it just functionally comes down to shrug?