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[–] mjr@infosec.pub 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There are also a lot of photos of hi-vis roadworks and emergency vehicles that motorists have crashed into. It's almost like it's not visibility that's the problem…

[–] guywithadeathwish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recall there being a phenomenon where drivers brains actually filter out hi-vis jackets as "unimportant data" because we see them so much.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the "urban camouflage" theory. Or they expect us to be slow or static like a roadworker or emergency worker and so botch the overtake.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I think the issue was the car its self was not visible enough to the emergency vehicles. Car drivers should be wearing reflective gear and helmets, and the car should be fully reflective.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mjr@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We are not invisible. The problem is that motorists aren't looking or aren't caring. Put some plain-clothes cops on bikes as bait and catch the incompetent.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It really doesn't, especially if it makes you look less like an ordinary human. You absolutely don't want them to think you're an expert rider who doesn't need space, or something like that.

You don't need them to see you from space. You need them to see you from just far enough away, but actually care enough not to endanger you.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Bizarre to argue against added visibility improving safety

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They're trying to argue a nuanced point and yall are being intentionally pedantic as to miss it, for shame.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm so far under the impression that added visibility is still good. They referenced studies saying there's a dropoff where it causes more harm than good, as mentioned earlier, but I haven't seen that yet

So pump the brakes a bit, friend

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah friend my fixie doesn't have brakes to pump, you replied with the same one-liner twice in a row without engaging anything they said, not cool!

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 0 points 9 hours ago

>same one-liner

It's a simple point, for the nuance I'd like to see something to change my mind tbh. I'm under the impression that unless you go ridiculous then added visibility helps everyone 

>my fixie doesn't have brakes to pump 

Hah is that a joke about the stereotype? Pretty good

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 0 points 21 hours ago

Well, truth is often stranger than fiction. Look at the research. Once a threshhold of visibility is achieved, more is not better. Beyond a point, more is actually detrimental.