THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I will continue to post this every time someone insinuates that someone else should murder Trump/ICE Agents/ etc. Instead, please focus on protecting you and yours.
In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.
Owning a gun isn't enough. Driving to Cabela's and picking up a vermin killing .22 is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.
I am not advocating for violence...far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.
PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn't about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect.
I'd like to add: get something that you can afford to train with. A riffle in some exotic caliber may seem really cool, but if firing 100 rounds ruins you, then you're not going to train enough.
IDK about ammo prices in the US, but I'd get a riffle chambered in .223rem or .308win, because it's the civilian version of the NATO 5.56 and 7.62, meaning ammunition is easier to acquire and potentially cheaper. I guess a handgun should be 9mm or .45 if following the same principle.
I would actually suggest getting a rifle in 5.56. The pressures are a bit higher than .223. You can shoot .223 out of a rifle rated for 5.56, but not the other way around.
Sure, and this is where I forgot we were talking about the US of Murica, because where I live I can't privately own a riffle in 5.56 but .223 is just fine for sport and hunting. And you can buy surplus 5.56 FMJ rebranded as .223, at least I think that's what it is, for sport and training (but not legal for hunting). Which was why I went with the .223 as my suggestion.
My theory is that this is rebranded military ammo https://huntershouse.dk/kat2654-.223-Rem./side18499-Magtech-.223-Rem.-FMJ.html Because it's like half the price of the soft tip hunting ammo.
Hearing protection is an absolute necessity, especially when training. Eye protection too. In the field, PPE is much less practical.
It's worth mentioning also that if you routinely use / possess drugs, you are legally barred from owning a firearm.
Important point there: A firearm.
A Zeus .72 Air Rifle will put a hole through anything and is not legally considered a firearm. I'd rather have an actual rifle if given the choice, but not everyone is given that choice.
A suppressor is nice, but also adds length. Think about your use case and whether that makes sense. Also, in the US you have to get on a government registry if you get one. May not be much of a concern since you're already on a registry if you buy a gun. (I know they say there's no registry, but do we really believe that?)
When training I recommend doubling up on hearing protection. Have some ear plugs and then electronic hearing protection over top. Walkers are cheap and work well enough for most people.
Looks like this guy either pulled his gun or threatened that he had one. Owning a gun was enough for this guy.