UK Politics
General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both !uk_politics@feddit.uk and !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.
Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.
Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.
If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)
Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.
Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.
view the rest of the comments
Bring on direct democracy. If our representives don't represent us, we should get rid of the position.
Personally I'd like better representation.
The problem with direct democracy is that you can't expect everyone to be knowledgeable on every topic whilst they go on living their normal life. A full time representative can spend time researching, or having advisors research. In theory they could be better informed than the public.
They're not, but in theory they could be.
No elected representative can ever be knowledgeable on every subject that they have to address. Most legislators are trained as lawyers because lawyers have to be good at faking it.
No, it's because lawyers can be expected to know how laws work. You kind of want that from someone who writes laws.
Which actually points to how the EU is structured. The unelected bureaucrats of the European Commission are in fact lawyers selected by each of the member states, they are selected on merit for their skill and they write the proposed EU regulations. These are then voted on by the democratically elected representatives of the European Parliament. The goal being to have professionals write functional laws but ultimately have them put in force through democratic means.
Still, the major problem with the EU is the way represntatives behave and are voted for. People all too easily neglect voting in the EU, or vote for joke/sensationalist parties that are even less likely to actually represent the people.
Frankly, I think for better or worse a direct democracy would do away with these issues. People might not know about every matter, but they'll certainly feel the consequence - and they won't be able to hide behind their representative screwing things up, it will be their own fault. They'll learn soon enough and there'll be much more accountability all round.
But in practice they aren't. In practice a represntative is swayed by people with money to go against the people they represent.
There would be little to no opportunity for that in a direct democracy. Lobbyists can't bribe everyone, it wouldn't be cost effective. Meanwhile people will have no choice but to educate themselves, as they'll feel the effects of their votes directly and won't be able to hide behind the (sometime inevitable) betrayal of the person they voted for. Even if people are lied to and convinced to vote another way, there's a huge difference between "You lied to me and didn't do what you said you'd do" and "You lied to me and got me to do something I didn't want to do", and generally there should be more accountability.
You'd be at the whim of every social media fad. Musk and Bezos would set the agenda even more than today.
Hard disagree.