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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy blasted his European allies Thursday for what he portrayed as the continent’s slow, fragmented and inadequate response to Russia’s invasion nearly four years ago and its continued international aggression.

Addressing the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Zelenskyy listed a litany of grievances and criticisms of Europe that he said have left Ukraine at the mercy of Russian President Vladimir Putin amid an ongoing U.S. push for a peace settlement.

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[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Edit: the commenter above (Skiluros) made up the $2.8tn figure by applying inflation to a commenter above saying that the USSR had received less money through lend-lease than Ukraine has since the invasion by Russia. This figure Is wrong because the original commenter was already discussing inflation-adjusted figures, and they refuse to correct the mistake.

According to Wikipedia's article on lend-lease, the USSR got $11.3bn, which today would roughly be $250bn. It's higher than what Greg said (which I assumed was taking inflation into account, hence me cheking), but still lower than what Ukraine has gotten (assuming the $300bn is correct, didn't fact check that).

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn't refusing to correct the mistake, thanks. I just hadn't checked my replies until now. I have made the edits now to clarify.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I meant Skiluros, not you, hence me referencing the $2800bn figure they made up

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

All good, buddy! Clarified who I meant :)

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have no clue around the exact sum provided to the USSR (although I have read about the nature of the support and what it focused on). I am just pointing you can't compare dollars in a nominal manner.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can compare dollars in a nominal manner if you apply inflation indices, that's what inflation is calculated for. Why did you literally make up the numbers by assuming that it wasn't inflation-adjusted instead of saying "you can't compare dollars"?

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How do you think I got the $2800 B figure?

The whole framing is dumb.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, you CAN compare dollars. You can just delete or edit your previous comment to eliminate the misinformation of $2800bn because you applied inflation twice on the original figure by (for some reason instead of checking it up) assuming Greg hadn't applied it

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ah, you're a tankie who supports russian genocidal imperialism.

No, wonder you're being so holier than thou.

Bye!

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is such a weird response. You are really making yourself look bad here. Why can't you just accept that you inflation adjusted a number that had already been inflation adjusted? It's an easy mistake to make and not a big deal but instead you are coming back with this bizarre non sequitur ad hominem.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Totally!

The individual who responded to me doesn't believe that Ukraine should not have self-determination and it should under russian domination.

I just made that up, right?

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You inflation adjusted a number that was already inflation adjusted. Whether they are a tankie is irrelevant.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Huh? Where have I expressed support for Russian invasion of Ukraine? I'm simply correcting your made-up numbers. Anyone who corrects you is a Russian imperialist?

Also, why genocidal? Using that word lightly isn't a good thing. It's harmful to actual genocide victims like Gazans to call everything a genocide.