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Trust me when I say you don't want the interiors of any of these states. Eastern Oregon, Southern Illinois, upstate New York, etc.
Southern Illinois already wants to cede and merge into Indiana today. I don't think you'd have problems with the others following suit
give them a short notice to make their decision and get out
Yeah, I only really have experience with upstate NY and out to central PA, maybe Altoona, Harrisburg at most, and even there it sucks. Upstate NY, I'm limited to 81 and it's surroundings because it's my route to Montreal, but it also sucks. The finger lakes are nice, saratoga's all right, but it's mainly awful.
I say it often, but NYC and Philadelphia have more in common with the sprawling suburbia that is NJ than they do their rural upstates.
Yes, in the PNW there is a shift from blue to red crossing the Cascades. And even rural areas west of them are pretty red.