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[โ€“] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

depending on your views regarding iulius nepos and the eastern till 1453.

If you don't count all the times it fell apart before coming back as an end, there wasn't much of Eastern Rome left when the crusaders took the Latin empire and Nicaea (just saying it's a continuation doesn't mean it is imo)

[โ€“] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago

i mean, this is pretty much true for the west as well. towards the end, the western emperors wielded negligible controll over their de jure posessions and odoacers coup brought little qualitative change for the population, regnum italiae or not. and charlemagne three centuries later and his successors were essentially just larping, lets be honest.

besides, all this continuation and succession nonsense was really just propaganda and intellectual masturbation by the various ruling classes trying to justify their rule.