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Lumo 1.3: Introducing Projects, a better way to organize and create (proton.me)
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[โ€“] redditmademedoit@piefed.zip 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Are you sure about that? I've been reading mixed information on how expensive it is to operate these chat bots, e.g. the cost of "inference", when you don't develop and maintain the actual models. Some claim inference is actually quite cheap. Not sure how that applies to Proton though, but as far as I understand Lumo is mostly a front end for some generally available models?

I think privacy is the biggest concern for users (as opposed the plethora of horrible problems AI brings to the world at large) with ChatGPT and similar services. I can see the market space for a privacy centered service.

[โ€“] ideonek@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

That's a fair question. Am I sure? No. The problem is that nobody is publishing explicitly about how expensive this all truly is (which is concerning on its own). But a lot of points are out in that direction. I think that "cost of inference" may be a fake metric on its own that it's designed to obscure that you need multiple sub-queries to run one "thinking" query - but granted, I'm out of my depth, so I may be wrong here.

AI companies are running two arms races here: one: who can create a better model. two: who can create shitteir cheeper psudo-model that can pass as "AI" (which are also too expensive).

When you complain that those models can do anything useful, and it makes terrible mistakes, they reply that you don't use the truly smart one. When you complain that there is no way that the smart one will ever be scalable because it's crazy expensive, they tell you, "but look how much cheaper the 'fast' ones are". Never truly addressing the questions, and bundling those so you are never sure which one youare using.

Does anyone successfully run this openy avaible models locally on their own machines? I'm seriously asking, since, as I unserstand that doesn't work out as well as one would hope. That suggests that the resources required are still massive.