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[–] _chris@lemmy.world 122 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Dems are beholden to billionaires. They just don’t want to be as obvious as Republicans.

It’s not liberals versus conservatives.

It’s the rich versus the rest.

There’s a lot more of us than there are of them.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They are owned by the same oligarchs and Israel. Nothing will meaningfully improve for the American people until we end the Israeli occupation of our government. https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And everyone is convinced they are the victim of the other side.

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The propaganda is strong.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 8 points 3 days ago (6 children)

DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs. They have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years, currently 45. The last time they had 58 for less than two months they caucused with 2 independents to pass Medicaid. They would have launched a Public Option identical to Germany's healthcare if not for one of those independents opposing it.

DNC is liberal, DNC is on our side, Vote DNC. Or, if an independent polls higher, then vote for them because at least they're not a Republican and removing every single Republican should be our goal.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (10 children)

DNC is on our side, Vote DNC

Oh I will, but not for any incumbents. This current batch is most definitely NOT on our side, but the DNC is just a container, it's filled with a liquid that has gone bad.

We pour out the contents of the container and replace it with something that hasn't gone bad yet.

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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The DNC has had multiple opportunities to tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs during my lifetime and they have not done so once. I don’t believe them anymore when they say it’s their platform.

Being anti-Republican isn’t enough anymore. This shit will keep happening for as long as we allow private ownership of the means of production.

[–] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The quiet part is there wasn’t a plan to tax the rich for another decade or two when they thought shit would actually hit the fan. Shit hit the fan much sooner than they hoped, as this was an issue they were going to leave the next generation to handle. It’s more an issue of the baby boomers having had control of the DNC for decades.

Business was booming during the Obama years; why did it matter to the rich people in Congress if the rest of us had to hustle more? That’s the real reason they didn’t tax the rich when they could have, well that and they were getting tons of funding from the big businesses.

The pro-corporate Dem plans went up in flames quite a lot when Hillary was not elected. Now that shit got worse much sooner than they hoped, they’re in a rock and a hard place because they still don’t want to tax their rich buddies but the voters are actually pushing to vote them out if they keep doing nothing.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Many democrats are on our side. Historically, traditionally the DNC AKA leadership absolutely isn't. There have been some changes in recent history. And that's good. But till there's enough history to plot out a new pattern of behavior. We'd be fools to treat them as if they changed.

The biggest problem with the Democratic party for decades has been that they're serving two masters. Lip-service to the voters to try and get their neoliberal candidates in office. But legislating largely for the major donors that took over funding the party once Reagan broke the unions. The DNC talks the talk. But atm are unable to walk the walk. I hope that changes soon. With each death and retirement, things look a little better for them.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many democrats are on our side.

Well I want people on my side who actually DO something.

You can be on my side all you want, but unless you're just marching with us, I want you to have some fucking balls and political capital if you're going to fight for me on a policy level.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Everyone does. AOC and Mamdani literally are marching with us. It's largely leadership that keeps anything from getting done or changing. Blame them.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Many democrats are on our side.

Yeah, like three of them.

And the rest are fighting harder to stop Democrats who actually are on our side than they are against fascists: people like Mamdani and Platner.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Yep, but thankfully it looks like Mamdani and Platner might be changing the equation. Fingers crossed.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Platner could easily be Fetterman v2.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago

Absolutely possible, though, less likely. He at least seems to show some introspection and ability to learn. But you're not wrong to be wary of him considering his past stances.

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[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, I'm pretty sure Democrats are for more funding for ICE. Don't project your ideals into these ghouls.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 2 days ago

DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years and now the ICE has more funding than most militaries. If you want change, vote out the Republicans, which almost always means vote DNC.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (25 children)

DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs.

And their campaign promises have so much value, clearly.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And I feel more and more that they only say these are their platforms because they have absolutely no chance of pulling any of it off so it's safe to promise but they won't be required to do the negotiating and political work to make it happen, especially if the entire party isn't aligned behind the goal. It's very easy to make promises for things but so far none of that has panned out on a federal level.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

they have absolutely no ~~chance~~ intention of pulling any of it off

I corrected this slightly, but you're right. They know that none of it is actually going to get done, and they have the excuses already lined up: not enough votes, obstruction, filibuster, parliamentarian, etc. etc. etc.

It's the same reason some billionaires insist that they support higher taxation on themselves, because they know it is never going to happen.

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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

brand new Lemmy account

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DNC is liberal. DNC is on our side. Vote DNC.

What a forsaken day to browse Lemmy

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 2 days ago

I've been a regular for quite awhile but I did recently move to piefed.

Feel free to make some kind of argument when you're ready.