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Gov. Tim Walz encourages Minnesotans to film ICE agents for future prosecutions
(minnesotareformer.com)
this post was submitted on 17 Jan 2026
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How do you want anybody to prosecute them if there's no video evidence? He's right to encourage people to film them.
The Minnesota FOP expressed support for ICE. Who do you want Walz to order to arrest them?
Did I say people shouldn't film ICE? The point of the judicial system is to prosecute crime. This guy is a governor. His job is to use his power and the police to PREVENT crime.
You're ignoring the entire point of my comment.
If the police are saying they support ICE doing crime. You remove those police from power. He's the governor!
Deputize the citizens that are actually defending their neighborhoods from ICE. He has power that he refuses to use.
You can't spend the next 3 years not using state power to defend your citizens. Trump is escalating. He should be using everything at his disposal to counter federal powers with his state powers. Otherwise, we are done. There is only federal and there is only fascism. People that don't want to be abducted by ICE are being told indirectly "your only option is your own acts of self defense and violence. The state will do nothing until you have already been killed/taken. Just 'trust us' to save you in 3 years"
The FOP is basically a police union, the governor doesn't have power over them.
Are you suggesting he somehow convinces the anti-cop crowd to become cops? Good luck with that. You're simultaneously arguing that those people aren't the ones with the responsibility to fix this, so who's gonna sign up for that?
No matter what he does, the feds are only going to retaliate harder. It's like someone's stuck in quicksand and you're telling them "Thrash harder! Why aren't you doing anything?!?"
Dude. You are literally trying to argue about doing nothing. Pointing to "rules" that he can't break while the fucking president has SS troops going door to door asking for papers.
Can you please have some perspective here? The state governor can break the rules too. There is precedent for it with the fucking president invading his state.
Why? Why are liberals more interested in restricting themselves to the rules while the entire time the right is shitting on the constitution?
The Trump administration is going to lie and say you are a "radical leftist terrorist". Can we please start actually treating the situation with the "radical leftist" response is requires? That's what we need!
Please understand this. You are going to get dragged to the camps screaming "but my rights! I followed the rules!"
What "rules" did I say he can't break?
What "rules" can he break that would help the situation in any way.
(1) Give citizens the confidence that the state police have been directed to enforce state laws that ICE breaks. ICE coming to peoples doors without warrants signed by a judge are TRESPASSING according to state law. Tell them that the police have direct to enforce state law.
(2) If police are refusing to enforce state law and trespass ICE. Fire them.
You can say "oh, he can't do that because he doesn't control..."
No, he's the governor. He has the political power to do this. You are fundamentally misunderstanding the direct powers vs. political powers. He has the political power to do this.
The major appoints the police chief. Walz has political power and influence over the mayor of Minneapolis. The major has political power to remove the police chief and replace them with someone that WILL fire officers.
Yes, this takes people in the state actually working together to enforce the law. Yes, the governor does not have power alone. But this is how politics works man.
The "rules" I'm referring to are about breaking this established order that I'm referring to. Breaking those rules means actually pressuring (or in some cases removing) people in their positions that refuse to defend the citizens of the state. Breaking the rules means using the state power to defend citizens against the federal invasion.
But Walz isn't even doing that. He's not messaging in a way that brings the power of the citizens to his side. He is not being "strategic" he is being a pushover. He's rolling over and showing his belly.
If he was smart (or cared) he'd already be messaging to the people that "the police WILL ensure ICE is arrested if they a breaking the law". This would light a fire under the asses of the people under him (mayor, police chief) to actually be held accountable for enforcing the law of the state. What ICE is doing is illegal according to state law. If they want a legal battle make it clear that this is a constitutional crisis of state vs. federal powers by actually challenging those federal powers with state and city law enforcement.
If all of that fails. Call in the national guard in the name of the state. Before Trump does.
Right now. He's putting himself and the state in a position to "lose without a fight". He needs to fight even if it that means he ends up losing.
Yes, the police or national guard may not comply. But, they are literally already being used to defend ICE NOW? Like, what are you even arguing against? The worse case in that is ALREADY HAPPENING because Walz and Frey have done nothing to change that.
It seems like you're the one fundamentally misunderstanding the organizational structure of state and local governance.
No he doesn't. There is no direct chain of authority from the governor to the mayor. The mayor is elected by the people of Minneapolis, and directly answerable to the people of Minneapolis. The governor is elected by the people of Minnesota and is directly answerable to the people of Minnesota. They often work together on mutual goals that require cooperation, but neither one is accountable to the other.
Walz doesn't even appoint the MSP police chief; that position is chosen from within the ranks via promotion. The closest thing he could do is appoint a new DPS commissioner, which wouldn't have much effect.
Those wouldn't be breaking any rules, but this isn't about rules. It's not about being "against the rules," it's about feasibility: what's possible and what's not possible. Here's what the mayor of Minneapolis said:
For the record, MSP has about the same number of troopers as MPD, and they're primarily tasked with traffic enforcement.
And if your idea is to recruit more people to the police force who will fight ICE, how do you plan to convince a bunch of leftists to become cops?
Lastly, it's not like the leadership is sitting around twiddling their thumbs, they're following the legal process to seek an injunction:
It's all they can do right now. Sure, it's a constitutional crisis, but violent means of resistance aren't called for until all other options have been exhausted. That means secession isn't on the table unless midterms are either canceled or ignored.
Mobilizing the national guard against federal agents would amount to open rebellion. No matter how corrupt and unqualified the federal administration and DPS/ICE troops are, it exposes the leadership of the state, the guard, and all its troops to legal penalties up to and including treason which can be punishable by death. And we all know how republicans are frothing at the bit to execute people. So unless you're confident that your state guard can win against the feds, that move is unadvisable. And since it would bring in full military mobilization, it would be a detrimental escalation. Not beneficial to the people of Minnesota or Minneapolis.
The governor and the mayor know these things. They know more than you do, so stop calling them cowards for not doing enough. Nothing they can do is enough, and anything they can do would be akin to thrashing while caught in quicksand.