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[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This happens all the time with TypeScript. The transpiled JS that actually runs will naturally have different line numbers than the TS you wrote!

To be fair, the reported line number is usually close enough that I can find the issue without much trouble.

It’s not my favorite back end language, but it’s what everyone on my team knows…

[–] folekaule@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is what source maps are for. With the right tools you can debug the original source instead of the minified version.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember to add --enable-source-maps and as long as your tools are configured properly it should point to the right line!

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the tip! I’ll double check that when I get back to work next week.

I’ve written a lot of NodeJS apps in vanilla JS, and plenty of .NET backend stuff too. The transition to serious TS has been relatively recent. I like it alright, but dislike the added complexity that comes with all the various config files - vanilla JS has enough of that already!

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a former .NET dev ... I stopped quite a few years ago after I joined a Bay Area company. It was quite a change. React 1 was just coming out and I used to just write bad JS on my webpages and I had to rewrite our front-end in React. Also, ES5 or 6 or whatever was getting popular and we had to transition from CoffeeScript.

The JS world gave me whiplash after doing so many years of Enterprise .NET. The .NET tools felt so much more polished.

The fundamentals of Node to me were different than .NET. .NET felt like it had a lot more cruft and "magic" at first. With Node it felt deceptively simpler at first. Then when the require syntax was going away and we had imports but then it wasn't a real import. It was a TypeScript import or a webpack import that did a require behind the scenes. Then I had to understand why we used typescript but then what was the point of tsc vs babel vs webpack vs esbuild what their roles were and I kind got a bit obsessed with understanding what they did and what was happening under the hood. Then Node officially did do import and I had to understand what that was all about and how it affected our compilers or bundlers.

Sorry I rant pointlessly. Godspeed on your journey!

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No worries on the ranting!

In this industry where we are all a little afraid to admit that we don’t know something, it’s nice to be reminded that everyone is always learning all the time and that there’s no way any of us can know everything.

I’m enjoying the learning process, despite its paper cuts, and love where I work. I enjoy TS itself but I do wish the process of setting up a new project/config stuff were more streamlined. Maybe in the future!

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, absolutely agreed.

Btw, you probably already know this, but if you don't. The later versions of Node can run typescript natively. By "run", I mean, it can run a subset of the language, if your project indirectly or indirectly references a file that has "decorators" or something like that, then you'll need to use another compiler.

ts-node or tsx are runners that I use typically if I just want to "run" something. They're basically zero config runners and I can debug with them with VS Code.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, I’ve read about the development of the ability to run TS natively in Node. It sounds really promising!

I’m not familiar with ts-node though. I’ll have to check that out.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well sure. But the error messages don’t point to those, which was what had me chuckling about this meme.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They would point to the right lines if source maps were included in the build.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, they are included in the build. But I still get error messages that don’t actually point to the line in the TS source file sometimes.

Maybe I have something configured wrong - TS projects always include a more config files of different kinds than I see in other languages I work in - but it happens.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago

If it's only rarely, it might just be some dumb caching issue, or it can be a build ordering issue. Like you have to be careful in Rollup configs or some tasks will mangle the code before a sourcemap is generated. Otherwise iirc it may have to be turned on in browser settings, though hopefully they're on by default these days.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] python@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's surprisingly good as a backend language, if you don't really need OOP all that much. The perfect case is probably using it in microservices that only really need to do a bit of data manipulation and some database interfacing.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’ve had pretty good experiences with it even situations with moderate data manipulation. There are some tricks you can use to engage different phases of the event loop to keep the data processing from blocking too much.

It’s still not as good as Java/C#/Go, of course, but it can help get some more performance out of Node.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You are familiar with NodeJS, yes? 👍

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

It's a really popular choice and has been for the few years.