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Berlin is expressing doubt about the European Union's ability to withstand the rise of nationalist parties and the pressure from the Trump administration. This unprecedented skepticism in Germany has raised fears of lasting weakening, or even the gradual marginalization, of Europe as it exists today.

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[โ€“] Barrington@feddit.org 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-economy-rose-02-2025-2026-01-15/

It's not hugely impressive but after 2 years of decline, the economy rising by 0.2% in 2025 is a noticeable improvement.

[โ€“] kossa@feddit.org 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Actually he is in an easy position to boost the economy. He has 500 billion Euro to basically spend as he sees fit. That would boost the economy. But unfortunately he uses the money to lint the pockets of his peers and the meager rest flows into industry from the early 20th century.

He could use those 500 billion to transition to renewable energy and fix the infrastructure and give tax breaks to the lower income bracket and - just like that - the economy would soar.

But nooo, we cannot have that. Stop the transition, buy gas and oil from dictators and give tax breaks to business owners who just stack the money instead of investing it. Because the investment environment is unstable as hell, because Merz and friends don't know where they want to go ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

And thus, we're stuck at 0.2% growth.

[โ€“] Barrington@feddit.org 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

The previous comment said "work on getting the economy started". I'm saying from a declining economy to a growing economy is making a start. In the face of tariffs from the US hurting exports I'd say it's not the worst start either.

If you are expecting a full turn around in a year and saying anything less is a failure, I think you need to adjust your expectations.

Edit: as an addition from the article

Despite a 5.1% increase in government expenditure in 2025, the financial deficit was almost 8 billion euros lower than the previous year because revenue grew 5.8%.

You can have an issue with his policy, all I'm saying is that from an economic perspective, it seems to be an improvement.

[โ€“] kossa@feddit.org 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I expect recipes which work. If your export oriented economy is hurt by the geopolitical landscape you need to strengthen your domecstic demand. They're doing nothing of that sort. That is what I am complainig about.

[โ€“] Barrington@feddit.org 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So the economy is up, deficit is down, but it's not being done in the way you want, so it's bad?

I really can't see your point.

[โ€“] kossa@feddit.org 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

My point: if you deny, in times of crisis, the needed funds to your previous government, they subsequently grant it to you, and you manage to only get a 0.2% growth, when you would have the means of around 10% GDP at your disposal...you're doing it badly, yes.

And we're discussing all of that in the context of rising fascism...you need to be faster in letting the voters feel something.

[โ€“] Barrington@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Can I take this back to the start.

Comment 1 says the economy is bad.

I said, it has actually grown in 2025 for the first time in 3 years. Then linked a source.

I feel Ike you are moving the goal posts to make a point when all I did was contradict someone and give a source.

[โ€“] kossa@feddit.org 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

OP said in order to combat fascism we would need to get the economy started. We are talking about like a Marshall Plan, a New Deal kind of story, where large parts of the people feel the difference.

You tell me, that after shrinking, the 0.2% is a start. That is not the momentum we would need, that people can feel. It is better than a shrinking economy, yes. But in the same way that drinking piss is better than eating shit.

And that IS, and here's my point again, that Merz actually has the means for a huge kickstart. He's not seizing the opportunity.

[โ€“] Barrington@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

OP said:

"Germany is questioning the future of the European project."

Nothing to do with my comment.

The comment I replied to said:

"If Merz could work on getting the economy started instead of parroting AfD shit, i would be so happy"

Going from a shrinking economy to a growing economy is literally the first step. Again, if that is not enough for you personally, fine, you do you.

What I am saying is that there was a positive change in the economy. Backed up with a source.

Argue all you want, what I said was accurate.

[โ€“] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago

If I remember correctly the 500 billion loan is packaged in a way that it doesn't count towards the official deficit number, so this is pure smoke and mirrors.

[โ€“] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"The economy" doesn't rise at all. It's just the BIP, probably the worst possible single number to measure the functioning of an economy, especially in circumstances of growing inequality.

[โ€“] Barrington@feddit.org 0 points 15 hours ago

The comment was that the economy needs to improve, and according to Reuters, it has.

If you know if another method of showing the health of a countries finances and can show it hasn't improved I would be happy to read about it.