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Listen, I know wars are horribly bad. I'm really sorry even asking such a question.

I'm Canadian. It seems that the fascists are set on military action against Greenland. I'm highly afraid that we're next. So I'm hoping the following happens in order:

  1. No wars. Somehow, legally the fascist executive is stopped. This unfortunately seems unlikely...
  2. They get bogged down in a war elsewhere. This prevents them from coming after Canada. I know this is me being extremely selfish, but whatever.
  3. A civil war begins. No one has to worry about being invaded.

So my question is related to the third possibility. What could start a civil war? Could an invasion of Greenland and the following economic collapse (hopefully caused by the EU dropping US treasuries) be the spark?

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] Vicinus@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bit more info on the linked podcast episode (July 10 2025):

"In an era that can feel like a tinderbox, Jon is joined by Tony Gilroy, creator of "Andor" and Oscar nominee, and Mike Duncan, bestselling author and creator of the "History of Rome" and "Revolutions" podcasts. Together, they examine what draws ordinary people into extraordinary historical moments, explore the catalysts that spark revolutions, and consider how both fictional narratives and historical analysis illuminate our present. Plus, Jon reacts to the latest Epstein file news or lack thereof."

I listened to it and enjoyed the episode.

Edit: For relevance to this week, they talk about ICE oppression and an expected incident will lead to an attempt at marshal law.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'll listen because I like Jon Stewart, but I'm a former soldier and I've been around a while, and I don't think he nor his panel is going to say anything to change my mind. But I'll give it a listen. Who knows. He's a bright guy.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't expect you to change your opinion. Everyone on the internet is loyal to their own brand. It's just a very good perspective on the topic.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't have a brand or following or even loyalty to opinions I held yesterday if they no longer serve me today. I've changed my mind on a great many things over the course of my life, and while I do struggle with shame when I've been wrong, the truth must ultimately be served.

Which is just to say, I have my fervent beliefs but when I'm wrong, I accept that and adapt, because the truth won't bend to accommodate me. I don't have that kind of money.