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I don't get why they're okay with this (linux.community)

submitted 1 day ago by Tablaste@linux.community to c/linux@programming.dev

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It's easier to disable all the garbage than remove the garbage?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social -5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Most Linux distros these days are more usable and less complicated than Windows.

Abso-fuckin-lutely not. You're just lying.

This view that Linux doesn't have the software selection or features comparable to an Enterprise Operating System ™️ like Windows is largely outdated and misguided.

It isn't.

You're being awfully discouraging

I am not discouraging anything. I am being realistic. You are not.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

K you wanna try and actually substantiate any of your points, or are you just going to continue to give a "nuh uh, you're wrong I'm right" argument?

[–] artyom@piefed.social -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I could but as a Linux user there's no way you don't already know this. You're just in denial.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Could you? I don't believe you.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 3 hours ago

That's fine.

[–] halet@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

LOL, I probs shouldn't feed the trolls, but here goes nothing.

Abso-fuckin-lutely not. You’re just lying.

We just bought a new PC. And because my family members are kind of adamant on using Windows, we will probably install the latest iteration that M$ has offered.

Funny enough, I am also the techie within the family. As such, I am expected to set it up so that it works as conveniently as possible.

Oh boy... From my reading on the subject, it seems to have become a gargantuan effort to rid Windows 11 of all of its anti-consumer mishaps. Only after doing so, can I actually start setting it up for our use case.

By contrast, if I'd install any beginner-friendly Linux distro, i don't have to undo anything; setting up starts right after the installation.

I can't fathom why anyone would prefer the former over the latter, but please feel free to give your take on the matter.

It isn’t.

Stuff like Bazzite has literally become plug-and-play. And breaking it is harder than your average Windows install.

As for software: WinBoat is a very easy (almost) one-click installable piece of software that bridges whatever gap you're imagining.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I can't fathom why anyone would prefer the former over the latter

No one prefers it. No one uses Windows because they enjoy the setup process. However:

The setup process in Windows is nothing but clicking buttons in a GUI. The same cannot be said for most Linux distributions. At minimum they require a software update to even function properly, and there's no unified way to do this. Good fucking luck looking it up and not finding a bunch of terminal commands that no one even sees fit to explain how to use. And even if they did they probably wouldn't work on your distro. The last one I used had 2 different software updaters and for the life of me I couldn't figure out why. And it badgered me with notifications every 5 seconds that there was a new one.
The setup process is not the problem. I don't know why you're still pretending to not understand why it's difficult to use.

As for software: WinBoat is a very easy (almost) one-click installable piece of software

LOOOOLOLOL it is absolutely not. There's even like 5 steps in the guided installer and each of them is incredibly convoluted. You're still lying.