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Sadly, Windows can never leave well enough alone. The current biggest confusion is that they changed restart vs shutdown. There are currently TONS of people who think they're restarting their computer regularly and saving themselves a lot of pain, but Windows decided to change the definition of shutdown.
Did you restart your computer?
Yes.
Did you use start-> restart?
No, I used start -> shutdown, then powered back on!
Sorry, that doesn't help; it saves the current running state, so when you use it later, it doesn't need to reload everything. For what's currently wrong, we really want to make sure we don't just have some memory corruption. Please perform start -> restart.
Yeah it is stupid.
But easily solved by disabling fast startup.
It is easy to work around once you know it exists, personally for my one remaining windows box, I rather prefer to let fast startup do it's thing ( it is really fast ) and just re-boot it once in a while.
Start -> Shift+shutdown also tells Windows to not use fast boot or hybrid shut or whatever...
When I figured that out, I was so pissed. I didn't tell you to hibernate! If I wanted you to hibernate, is have told you to do that. I said shutdown damnit.
If they let us know they were hiber the kernel, we could have at least chose to hiber the whole damn thing and pick up where we left off.
I had a Mac user in my office last month, I asked her to reboot her MBP, she used the power button to crash it. I'm like, is that the way you always do that? Sure, she says. I showed her the reboot option and she was like "oh neat bye." That poor fucking Mac.
Wtf, when did this happen?
https://www.pdq.com/blog/restart-vs-shutdown/
When they introduced fast startup in windows 8 :( You can disable fast startup, which eliminates the problem. Honestly, though, it's better to use the real restart at the first sign of questionable stuff.
Considering many don't properly restart, Windows 10 / 11 are remarkably stable compared to Windows 7, and when updates force you to restart, it does it the proper way.
That's fucked I've been thinking I'm a good boy shutting down my computer whenever I don't need to use it to ensure that I don't get any slow down. Why on earth would you name it "shut down" at that point?
One of win 8's targets was to decrese boot times. Bios was slow, so Win 8.1 was designed to take advantage of UEFI. While they were there, they decided to 'cache' the kernel to make it super fast.
But it was just the kernel. All your apps still had to load again from scratch. They should have called it hybrid sleep visibly in the UI. But the change was confusing, so they just hit it.
Does shutdown /r still work fine?
kinda hard to tell :)
i found one that talks about win 8 https://superuser.com/questions/495240/how-to-instruct-windows-8-not-to-perform-a-fast-shutdown
that says /s works and if you want fastboot at cli use /hybrid, but that's an old article, ymmv