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πŸ”— Source: Sharknoon (Reddit)

I was looking for an alternative for PayPal and quickly stumbled upon Wero. But unfortunately Wero isn't yet acceppted by all countries, banks and online shops. So I built werotracker.eu to keep track of the adoption of Wero.

➑️ Link: https://werotracker.eu/

This dashboard has the following features:

πŸ“ˆ Show adoption stats

πŸ” Search for banks and online shops

βœ… Filter for countries and support status (supported/announced/unsupported)

πŸ’Έ See individual payment features (P2P, eCommerce, POS), not every Wero implementation is equal

πŸ“± App availability

I hope this dashboard is helpful to you πŸ˜€

The site as well as the data is open-source under the Apache 2.0 License. You can find the source-code here: https://github.com/sharknoon/wero-tracker

If you see an error or your bank is missing, please give us a hint or contribute directly: https://github.com/sharknoon/wero-tracker?tab=readme-ov-file#contribution

Thank you and have fun πŸŽ‰

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (18 children)

Per wikipedia:

Wero is managed by banks via their mobile apps. This creates a dependency on iOS (Apple) and Android (Google) systems. Consequently, Wero exchanges its reliance on payment networks like Visa and Mastercard, for a reliance on two Big Tech giantsβ€”Apple and Google, with the new dependency focusing on online availability and distribution through their application stores.

Needing to rely on two pro-fascist tech companies seems like a particularly bad idea. Wero also does not appear to be anonymous.

A better alternative to Wero is GNU Taler, which is a properly open standard that is a true anonymous digital cash, and offers real independence from tech-bro corporations.

We have a community that discusses GNU Taler over at !money@slrpnk.net

Also @PracticalFail@feddit.org

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (5 children)

This is a non-argument, even though it made it onto Wikipedia. A mass-adopted Taler-based payment system would also require mobile support, which would be gatekept by Google/Apple.

Breaking oligopolist control over the mobile ecosystem is a separate battle and applies to both Wero & Taler.

That's not to say that Wero couldn't do more in this regard, e.g. publish to F-Droid.

[–] haagch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

A mass-adopted Taler-based payment system would also require mobile support, which would be gatekept by Google/Apple.

I can use the Taler firefox addon literally today on my Shift 6mq with postmarketOS with no compatibility layers.

Yea the UI isn't great, but it already today is usable everywhere where firefox is usable, and unlike Wero, the client source code is available and the UX can be improved independently.

[–] jaschop@awful.systems -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think it's great that you use privacy-enabling tech, and developing these is valuable in my eyes. But nothing about your setup screams "mass adoption" to me. I'll spare everyone the mobile OS adoption charts, and browser adoption isn't looking better.

You just can't put out an on-par mobile service nowadays without an app in Play and Apple's store. I don't like it, but it is what it is.

[–] haagch@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

That's why Taler has native apps in the google play store, the apple app store, fdroid and a direct apk download. And still it does not prevent me from using it on other devices like Wero does.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

I agree with you on numbersnumbers, but someone needs to build these things "for the nerds, by the nerds" before they can become adopted more broadly. It may take years, it may not happen, but before anything else you need a bunch of highly motivated folks and must recognise and nurture that.

The alternative is the big tech approach of binding until it's mostly there, then dropping it on tonnes of people at once (or startups and growth hacking).

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