How is the Iran coup unrelated? Both of these activities were CIA psyop missions. Both were documented internally and then later declassified under the 'freedom of information act'.

And in this particular case, the articles and propaganda produced by these CIA-funded 'leftist' media outlets are there. So you can double-check if the contents of these articles matches the objectives mentioned in the files.

And it didn't only stop at Mexico.

Your commenting pattern is so weird, comrade. Gave me one more reason to hate the broad term 'leftist'. Especially in the west.

No matter how much you try to find a 'gotcha' moment, I am a materialist. I don't make claims that can't be backed up by logic, reason, and the existing historical evidence.

[–] Sabbo@hexbear.net -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh really? Well, no true materialist would refuse the opportunity to flex their theory. So please, show your work. A basic triangular scenario will do fine. I'll even help.

Here are your predicates

T(x, y) "y should trust x"

I_dec(x, y) "'x' has an interest in deceiving 'y'"

H_dec(x, y) "'x' has a history of deceiving 'y'"

I_hon(x,z) "'x' has an interest in being honest to 'z'"

Go ahead, basic logic.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And you keep omitting the fact that CIA indeed used non-communist leftist writers and movements to spread anti-communist propaganda for decades. Your logic exercise here becomes completely irrelevant after considering the fact that CIA never directly, formally acknowledged doing something like this, but it was caught in their internal documents. As you also ignore the multiple other instances where they applied the same tactic. Look up 'Congress for Cultural Funding (CCF)'. In your genius mind, the same CIA that has engaged in tactics of mass-spread of anti-soviet, anti-Stalin, anti-Chinese and all sorts of red scare propaganda by funding publication houses and literal movies that even the demsocs and the anarchists took for the truth, would leak a small memo that 2 out 100s of leftist in a small forum on the internet would be bickering about. And to reinstate my previous point, this shit never got leaked! It's a declassified document, goddammit!

Everyone in this thread can see that you have become desperate to protect your fantasy where CIA were trying to sabotage their own operations by writing fake internal reports to own the left.

Just admit it. You fell for it and became part for the 'Compatible Left'.

[–] Sabbo@hexbear.net -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, ableism. Cut it out.

Your entire argument seems to rest on the US government being honest.

Again, do you trust the US government?

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

What is this account?