MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Yep, facts are "ironic" to someone who doesn't let evidence interfere with their opinions.
You are a victim of ignorance & denialism of conventional political science, history, widely reported facts.
Your ignorance is effective at convincing yourself.
It doesn't seem you followed any of the links clearly showing leftist factions in the party exist, their positive government intervention policies (social safety nets, investment in public services, economic controls) in pursuit of a fairer, more egalitarian society, or their criticisms of social & economic inequities including from underregulated capitalism. You seem to ignore criticism of capitalism & the US economy in the news from leftist democrats urging better regulation & public interventions: AOC, Warren, etc.
Not the definition or a requirement of leftism. Leftism is the pursuit of social & political equality and egalitarianism.
That modern liberalism is leftist follows from definitions & straightforward logic. Political scientists recognize leftist liberals
Many of these ideologies accept regulated market capitalism in a mixed economy.
Too bad: you shouldn't expect your falsehoods to go unchallenged. Contrary to your flat-out wrong opinion contradicting conventional political science, history, & widely reported information, the Democratic party includes a major leftist faction often followed in the news.
Anti-capitalism doesn't mean proposing reforms or social policies. It means proposing the abolition of capitalism. The fact that you think any of this liberal/social democrat garbage is "leftist" is my entire point. True leftists want to end capitalism. You will think of that as an "extreme left" position, but for people not sheltered by your media ecosystem, it's just leftist. Your "left" only at very best reaches juuuust left of centre.
It's only extreme left for Americans. These people freely participate in European parliamentary politics and are seen as regulars
Leftism typically includes groups who want to abolish existing politico-economic orders in favour of entirely different ones. The terms came from the French parliament in the 19th century when faced with the question of retaining monarchy (whose proponents sat on the right) or republicanism (sat on the left).
Liberals don't really qualify as leftists because they are fine with maintaining capitalism and can be considered centre-left at best. The left would typically start at the so-called "democratic socialists" like the Bernie Sanders and Mamdani cadre.