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I honestly don't know of any practical things we can do. I think part of why people end up holding signs is because it's an easy way to respond.
I'd love to just start going on strike but like so many of us I gotta keep this job. It took a year to get this job and I need to keep it for a while :/
Let me clear that up. We have people here doing ice watch patrols and some groups doing court watch + "know your rights". So we try to help people prevent getting got in the first place. I just wish I had a way to hurt these people in their wallet and especially hit back at the chud businesses around here.
Yeah, getting yourself fired is usually a bad idea, but it could be good to do workplace organizing that won't get you fired.
Is kidnapping a sin in the bible? I could take that angle and see if my workplace can ban ICE agents from being hired here. They're very religious so any Jesus quotes I could throw at them could be helpful.
Well, murder is a sin and they murdered this bystander here.
Taking your question at face value, there are actually multiple places in the Old Testament where kidnapping is forbidden, but sometimes it used a verb for "steal" that applies to both people and property and the common translations use "steal," which obviously usually only applies to property. afaik Jesus Himself never really comments on it because human trafficking was already understood to be against Jewish law, just like many other issues that he doesn't bother relitigating. That said, he tended to oppose violence even against "evil" figures, as when he broke up a fight and healed that Roman soldier's ear or whatever it was.
But my suggestion is to try to understand what their actual values are and argue from there. Inevitably it sounds like it mostly comes from (their selected points in) the Bible, but that doesn't mean that quoting scripture directly on an issue is the best or even really a good way of persuading them. At base, it's unavoidable that they personally believe in things, and identifying those things is the best way to persuade them because something that doesn't properly interact with those things will simply be brushed off.
women, children, and slaves were considered property
That last one is very important, because anyone can be a slave if you kidnap them. It is nonetheless true that the assumption of "steal" in English is that you're not talking about kidnapping humans, even if in some circumstances it does get used that way.
there's a fossil phrase of "stealing someone away", but i'm too removed from english class to remember how much of that is outside of faerie stories or a midsummer nights' dream.