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I'm at a new job and working on a Saturday. This place is very "Christian-values blah blah blah" and at the end of our work day one of the supervisors is holding a prayer about "please God let this _ go smoothly and thank you for helping us etc."

This isn't the first time I've sat at a prayer that's this selfish and asinine. Pretty sure I've been in a prayer thanking Jesus for some hot wings.

This kind of prayer was given today. Y'know, the day where some pretty awful things happened in a South American country but who cares about that /s

I don't get Christians. They say all this nice stuff about their religion but the worship songs are very individualistic, talking about "Jesus saved me", "my relationship with god", "thank you God for x". Never about other people. And of course none of the prayers today were for IDK the people who fucking bombed and murdered today in our bloody quest for oil?!?

Do these people really think their God gives a fuck if their hot wings taste good or if the printer works in the office today? If you really believed in this Devine being wouldn't you want it to focus on the important things like IDK making sure everyone has food and shelter and maybe making life less miserable for the homeless people? WTF is wrong with Christians? Is this banal kind of "worship" also common in other religions or is this yet another reason to escape the U.S South ๐Ÿค”

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They Suffered under Pontius Pilate: Jewish Anti-Roman Resistance and the Crosses at Golgotha. Fernando Rubio, 2023. This one takes a look in detail at the Gospels' stories, arguing 1) Jesus was arrested, tried and executed by the Romans for rebellion, not the Jewish priesthood for blasthemy; 2) the early christians transformed his fellow martyrs, on his right and left, into bandits to dissociate their movement from rebellion; 3) the focus on Jesus and his divinity is a complete departure from his teachings which; 4) replace the actual socioeconomic sufferingsof the period and his parables with focus on the spiritual sufferings (e.g. transformation of "blessed are the poor" to "blessed are the poor in spirit")

I've been exposed to this argument before, and it has profoundly changed how I read the Gospels. The cracks that break it all down are two very single observations:

  1. The Romans by all objective accounts were the Christkillers, not Jews. It was the Romans who scourged Christ, it was the Romans who drove the nails into his body, and it was the Romans who almost ran a spear through his body in order to hasten his death.

  2. Despite the objective fact that the title of Christkiller should be placed upon the collective heads of the Romans, do the received Gospels actively portray the Romans as Christkillers or do they try to obfuscate this objective fact?

A lot of the parables and events also make more sense when you remember that Judea is being occupied by Rome. Jesus chasing out the tax collectors was him decolonizing a temple by throwing out Roman collaborators. Jesus telling the young rich man he's not going to heaven is basically him telling off some Roman collaborator who got rich out of selling out his fellow Judean. Judas was the ancient equivalent of a Palestinian working with Mossad for money.