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Former Trump administration official and wife of top Trump aide Stephen Miller, Katie Miller, posted Saturday on X (formerly Twitter) an image of Greenland covered in the U.S. flag with the text “SOON”.

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[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Why do liberals continue to assert American fascists acting on behalf of international finance and the O&G industry are always and forever a cat's paw for the Evil Foreigners?

Is it really that hard to believe American plutocrats might be the primary beneficiary of an American campaign to expand America's territory?

"We do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense," Trump told The Atlantic in an interview published Jan. 4, describing the island as reportedly "surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships."

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That’s not what was implied in the comment your replaying to, they just stated it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy and benefit from. Not that he or any other state or non state actor are pulling the strings.

And they are correct, strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US annexing part of a member nation, not to mention the collapse of NATO.

And I’m not defending anyone here, American and its rich rulers are pieces of shit, Putin and the Russian oligarchs are pieces of shit, and even though they aren’t doing anything wrong in this instance the leaders/authorities of every major player in geopolitics are also in fact pieces of shit.

Edit: and before you start, politically I’m best described as an anarchist in the fashion of David Graeber so not a liberal by a long sight

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy

Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?

strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US

The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?

In theory, he might not like a heavy foreign naval presence, but Greenland is already NATO aligned. So he'd be trading a NATO aligned region for a US-only region in exchange for a fractured NATO. Sounds like a decent trade. Also keep in mind practically speaking they are probably equally unlikely to actually boost military presence much, and if they really wanted just that, NATO would probably mostly let them do it if USA paid for it, without USA having to take it.

The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.

This isn't about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It's about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring. A USA versus European NATO scenario would be his dream scenario. See "Foundations of Geopolitics", where it's mostly about getting Russia's opponents to fracture and ruin alliances:

Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".

This is also the book that makes annexation of Ukraine the top priority, that it must be secured before the broader Russian agenda can be executed. It also says they need to make the UK isolated from the broader EU. They know that above all else alliances must be broken for them to stand a chance to seize power.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This isn’t about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It’s about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring.

A lot of the Trump plan for Greenland's annexation revolves around love-bombing the existing inhabitants and effectively buying the island out. Incidentally, not unlike the Chinese plan for Taiwan or the original Russian plan for Crimea. This follows domestic efforts on the island for full independence that Danish intelligence believes has been exacerbated by American media and intelligence interference.

Obviously, ended up backfiring. But you don't need a NATO invasion so much as a Color Revolution, which Americans have (historically) been pretty good at setting up.

However you slice it, Russia doesn't benefit from this in any material sense. And constantly holding the Russians up as a boogeyman when the crooks leading this scheme are squarely rooted inside the White House, not the Kremlin, is as obtuse as it is xenophobic. "Everything I don't like is The Bad Foreigners" is the mentality that produced Trumpism to begin with. Liberals leaning into it only guarantee more Trumps into our future.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

lol done here you’re not worth any more effort, with you being daft as a brush and all that.