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[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The "average American" despises Trump

How did Trump win the elections in a two party system if over half the population despises him? I know the US electoral system is not directly related to raw amount of votes, but still.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 1 week ago

More people didn't vote at all than voted for either candidate.

Many people who voted for Trump are already regretting it hard, per polling

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trump actually got less votes the second time than he did the first time. Voter turnout in the US is miniscule, with less than half the population voting for a variety of reasons (gerrymandering, voting day is not a federal holiday so people still have to work, the lack of politicians who do what they promise, etc.).

So roughly a quarter of the country voted for him, and some of them voted for him because he isn't a Democrat. There's a great story about how a trans person who ran on a defund the police campaign got elected county sheriff in Vermont because she ran as the Republican candidate. Enough people showed up and voted for whoever had the R next to their name without ever listening to any of the candidates to know what their stances were that she won by a landslide.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because they CHEATED, and EVERYBODY knows it, even MAGAs. They'd love to brag about it, but they can't.

In America, the president isn't chosen by popular vote. No Republican has won the popular vote on America since Reagan in 1980, and they are less popular now than have been in decades. Trump claims he won it in 2024, but again, they cheated, so it doesn't count.

How did they cheat? The presidential race came down to the votes in 7 swing states, as it usually does. Somehow, despite no polls showing it in advance, Trump won decisively in every single one of those states, almost a statistical impossibility.

To cheat, all they had to do was flip one race, in 7 states, and in those seven states, there were MILLIONS of ballots with straight Democratic tickets, but Trump at the top. MILLIONS! And yet, I've never seen a single voter claim they voted that way. I don't know any, and I've never seen one interviewed on TV Supposedly there are millions of them, but nobody has ever talked to one. If you still doubt that, understand that nearly all of those split tickets came from those 7 swing states. We are expected to believe that those sorts of voters only live in those states, and nowhere else.

Besides that, there are many very strange statistical anomolies in districts and states across America, but nobody on either side is talking about it, the media is complicit as usual, so they aren't covering it, leaving private individuals to collect the data and exposing it. It starts to sound like a conspiracy theory, but sometimes, even often, conspiracies are true.

They had four years, and a close alliance between three of the most psychopathic Oligarchs on the planet, including one with the power of a hostile sovereign nation, and two of them with confirmed advanced hacking capabilities, to get their voting machine fraud strategy operational.

Worse, the moment the race was over, the Dems voluntarily declared that the MAGAs won it "fair & square," even though it was fishy at the outset to anyone with basic Critical Thinking Skills. They didn't take even the slightest look at it, they were too busy getting excited at the prospect of being smug about teaching a lesson to MAGAs about how to have a peaceful transfer of power, as if MAGAs care about that at all.

And consider this: Trump routinely cheats at everything he does. Everything. He thinks it gives him an advantage over those weak people with morality, which it does. He cheats even when he doesn't have to, because he always thinks it will give some sort of an advantage.

He was about to go to trial, and almost certainly would have ended up in prison, as the evidence of his treason in two separate cases was incontrovertible. The only thing that would keep him out of prison for the rest of his life, was becoming president. So we are supposed to believe that the one election that would keep him out of prison for life, was the one election that he decided to finally play it "fair & square" for the first time in his entire life? How can ANYONE be that obtuse?

The Democratic Leadership reaction finally exposed, once and for all, how weak and cowardly the Dem leadership like Schmuck Schumer, Jeffries, Pelosi, etc. truly are. They don't really want power, all they care about is remaining in office so they can keep padding their bank accounts with insider trading. It's as if they know that the entire world is about to turn authoritarian, and the only thing that will save them and their heirs is a shit ton of money, so they are concentrating on that, instead of saving America, and the world, from MAGA rule.

MAGA is only about a 1/3 of America, and shrinking. They got into power by cheating, and they will hold power through brutality. We have a couple of elections ahead that will secure the future one way or the other, and it is literally the Democrats last chance, and they actually have a good chance to prevail...

...unless they squander this opportunity, the way they did during the shameful Biden administration, and fail to crush MAGA once and for all, and purge it from our government and our society. Then America will be lost, and likely slip into Civil War, and the rest of the world will be on their own to prevent their own takeovers by Russia and China.

Other countries need America to slip out of this peacefully nearly as much as America does. They need to pressure their leaders, to pressure the Democratic Party, to take its responsibility seriously, and either fight back, or get out of the way and let the rising Progressive Warriors have a go at stopping MAGA.

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Didn't Trump thank Elon publicly about helping, saying something along the lines that "Elon is very good with Computers"?

Yes, he did. Something along the lines of "Elon's very good with computers. He fixed that right up for us."

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is common in various countries that large part of the population does not vote.

What does this have to do with the point? I was pointing out that it is unrealistic to assume that the majority of the US population despises Trump, yet he won the elections in a dual party system. That is because if you despise one of the parties in such a system then the choice is very clear.

some of them voted for him because he isn't a Democrat.

Then if I should take both this point and the one above as true, the conclusion should be: over half the Americans despise Trump, but a larger quantity despise Democrats more than Trump.

Because the votes are not at all a representation of the country. The country is actively hostile to voters, particularly leftists. This means that a disproportionate number of votes are from conservatives, because the stats say that they would never win again if voting was actually fairly accessible to everybody. Combine that disenfranchisement with the disillusionment in both the system and the Democratic party, and it's easier to make sense of how Trump won this last election despite getting less votes than he did the last time that he won.

I would say that your second point is more or less correct. Trump got less votes than his last term, but the Dems lost even more votes for various reasons. From running an unpopular candidate to running on a platform that largely consists of leaning more and more conservative year after year to gagging their actually popular candidates, leftists are fed up with the Dems.