Or, hear me out, not having a notch is wildly better than surrendering screen real estate to shit designers that prioritise form over function. (This applies to Apple, Samsung, Google, et al, except for sony and some other smaller brands).
Having had a phone with a notch and a phone with a small circle cutout, the notch bothered me and the circle cutout has hardly been an issue. I mean, I'd prefer an uninterrupted screen and a front camera, but I don't like any of the current iterations of retracting selfie cameras, and I need a front camera for video calls.
EDIT:
I forgot about under-screen cameras. My options would be limited to RedMagic phones, Sony phones, and the Samsung Z-Flip. Maybe I'll look into Sony next, since I heard the RedMagic software can be pretty awful.
If you go the way of Sony, in Europe, the 1 VI is heavily discounted and is 99% of the phone the 1 VII is. The VI still gets 3 major android version updates, till 17.
Ok. I mean sure. But since it’s there, I like the workaround. It makes useful space that’s seamlessly integrated and thus doesn’t feel like wasted space. I don’t feel like there’s a camera cluster there wasting my screen space. Because that part of my notification bar has always been empty (I genuinely hate notification clutter, so on android my top bar was always basically empty just like this is)
I’m willing to make sacrifices as long as they are done well, and compared to every phone I’d had before this one, it’s nice to see it used. It compares favorably to my past experiences.
I’m not an apple person, this is the only Apple device I’ve ever had, other than a first(?) generation 2gb iPod way back in the day, and I don’t plan to get another walled garden device. So not fanboying or anything, and I have far more complaints than praises for this pos, but it’s a good way to wrestle back a bit of space without having to make any major design changes. I’m ok with that.
Sure, if there’s one available that can function as a daily driver and is user-repairable when I need a new phone. Or if more devices get support for alternate privacy-focused OS options, a used phone could be a real possibility.
But I might not bother with a smartphone at all if there aren’t better choices than now. I have a host of other things I can use to browse the internet and do most stuff I presently do on this tiny screen, and I’ve cut way way back from how much I even use this. Only issue would be GPS, but old devices work for that just as well as newer ones, as long as you download the maps.
Yeah, that’s why I said if there is one when I’m ready to get a new phone. That’s likely several years away, because I don’t plan to buy more stuff if I don’t have to, so one might exist by then. I know there’s been some progress on that front, just not a ton.
To this day I'm flabergasted that Sony is the only company that still knows how to design phones.
*Heres a magic screen with sapphire protection to avoid scratches and a bajillion nits because fuck battery life. Oh, btw, its costs north of 1000€.
Uh, there's like 150 dead pixels on the screen
*Oh silly you, it's a camera notch,
Wait, so why the whole schtick about how amazing the screen is when you deliver it with lost real estate that is the equivalent to falling on a rock from a height of 4m?
*Shut up peasant, you don't know design.
Sorry, thank you for letting me pay weeks of disposable income to own a factually broken screen because your engineers are too shit to achieve an under screen cam! ciau bellos
Yes, calling an intentional design choice dead pixels is extremely dumb fuck behavior. I know it’s hard for you to recognize this, but it is in fact true.
I love how many assumptions you make, just because you can’t stand being wrong. It’s quite humorous actually.
Also, you begin the name calling, and then play the victim when I throw it back at you. Pretty common among dumb fucks.
It doesn’t matter how much you call it a broken screen, you’ll still be wrong.
Imagine if you had an actual argument, rather than continuing with your logical fallacies.
Nobody is fawning over anything. You are being incredibly more irrational on your “Apple Bad” stance than I am. I never even said I like apple. I literally just said an intentional feature, by definition, is not broken. You’re literally a caricature.
You don’t like it, and would rather have a shitty under screen camera? Fine. That exists, go get it. I know you might be sad to hear this, but the world doesn’t revolve around you. Companies aren’t making products just for you. They are making products that appeal to people. That comes in various shapes, sizes, form factors, and features. The fact that you can’t understand this is absolutely mind boggling.
Do you have any actual argument? Or are you just going to continue with your ad hominem attack?
You can write a book about you izealot theories. Facts are facts. Watch how the "not problematic" "not broken screen" becomes a full screen once Ap can copy under screen cameras from someone else. Keep preaching your religious dogmas as much as you like, delusional people are like that. I'll be back to this comment when Apple releases an USC phone to enjoy your dogmatic excuse then.
Or, hear me out, not having a notch is wildly better than surrendering screen real estate to shit designers that prioritise form over function. (This applies to Apple, Samsung, Google, et al, except for sony and some other smaller brands).
Having had a phone with a notch and a phone with a small circle cutout, the notch bothered me and the circle cutout has hardly been an issue. I mean, I'd prefer an uninterrupted screen and a front camera, but I don't like any of the current iterations of retracting selfie cameras, and I need a front camera for video calls.
EDIT:
I forgot about under-screen cameras. My options would be limited to RedMagic phones, Sony phones, and the Samsung Z-Flip. Maybe I'll look into Sony next, since I heard the RedMagic software can be pretty awful.
If you go the way of Sony, in Europe, the 1 VI is heavily discounted and is 99% of the phone the 1 VII is. The VI still gets 3 major android version updates, till 17.
Ok. I mean sure. But since it’s there, I like the workaround. It makes useful space that’s seamlessly integrated and thus doesn’t feel like wasted space. I don’t feel like there’s a camera cluster there wasting my screen space. Because that part of my notification bar has always been empty (I genuinely hate notification clutter, so on android my top bar was always basically empty just like this is)
I’m willing to make sacrifices as long as they are done well, and compared to every phone I’d had before this one, it’s nice to see it used. It compares favorably to my past experiences.
I’m not an apple person, this is the only Apple device I’ve ever had, other than a first(?) generation 2gb iPod way back in the day, and I don’t plan to get another walled garden device. So not fanboying or anything, and I have far more complaints than praises for this pos, but it’s a good way to wrestle back a bit of space without having to make any major design changes. I’m ok with that.
So a Linux phone then? Because Google’s putting up walls real quick. And selling your data out from under you.
Sure, if there’s one available that can function as a daily driver and is user-repairable when I need a new phone. Or if more devices get support for alternate privacy-focused OS options, a used phone could be a real possibility.
But I might not bother with a smartphone at all if there aren’t better choices than now. I have a host of other things I can use to browse the internet and do most stuff I presently do on this tiny screen, and I’ve cut way way back from how much I even use this. Only issue would be GPS, but old devices work for that just as well as newer ones, as long as you download the maps.
Narrator: There isn’t.
Yeah, that’s why I said if there is one when I’m ready to get a new phone. That’s likely several years away, because I don’t plan to buy more stuff if I don’t have to, so one might exist by then. I know there’s been some progress on that front, just not a ton.
To this day I'm flabergasted that Sony is the only company that still knows how to design phones.
*Heres a magic screen with sapphire protection to avoid scratches and a bajillion nits because fuck battery life. Oh, btw, its costs north of 1000€.
*Oh silly you, it's a camera notch,
*Shut up peasant, you don't know design.
Well, they were great until the V generation. Just look at those phones now. Plus the price is horrendous.
Agreed. They did have a consistent design. Now it looks like it hates its users.
Cool. Idk why you are ranting at me about it tho. Like I don’t even like my phone outside of a few neat or well-done things it can do.
I’ve read a lot of dumb takes on here, but this one might be the best.
This is about people like you!
Ah yes, because I don’t think a brand new phone is broken I’m the crazy one?
Makes so much sense. Dumb fuck.
Classy, I guess education failed to cross the Atlantic.
It's funny tho, because Apple itself covers warranty over dead pixels. A notch is the equivalent of how many dead pixels?
But of course, I'm the dumb fuck, not the iZealots.
You people really are a deadweight on humanity.
Yes, calling an intentional design choice dead pixels is extremely dumb fuck behavior. I know it’s hard for you to recognize this, but it is in fact true.
I love how many assumptions you make, just because you can’t stand being wrong. It’s quite humorous actually.
Also, you begin the name calling, and then play the victim when I throw it back at you. Pretty common among dumb fucks.
What does one call screen real estate that doesn't display or is otherwise dark?
Humans: Dead pixels
iZealots: Free real estate
I wonder if iDiot is what apple uses as an internal codeword for the religious freaks that fawn over their products 🤔
It doesn’t matter how much you call it a broken screen, you’ll still be wrong.
Imagine if you had an actual argument, rather than continuing with your logical fallacies.
Nobody is fawning over anything. You are being incredibly more irrational on your “Apple Bad” stance than I am. I never even said I like apple. I literally just said an intentional feature, by definition, is not broken. You’re literally a caricature.
You don’t like it, and would rather have a shitty under screen camera? Fine. That exists, go get it. I know you might be sad to hear this, but the world doesn’t revolve around you. Companies aren’t making products just for you. They are making products that appeal to people. That comes in various shapes, sizes, form factors, and features. The fact that you can’t understand this is absolutely mind boggling.
Do you have any actual argument? Or are you just going to continue with your ad hominem attack?
You can write a book about you izealot theories. Facts are facts. Watch how the "not problematic" "not broken screen" becomes a full screen once Ap can copy under screen cameras from someone else. Keep preaching your religious dogmas as much as you like, delusional people are like that. I'll be back to this comment when Apple releases an USC phone to enjoy your dogmatic excuse then.
Facts are facts lol you’ve said none. You keep attacking me, and not saying a single fact. Did you know that opinions aren’t fact?
You ignore every point I make.
You’re literally fucked in the head my guy. I’ve talked to some wackos on here, but you take the cake.
I’ll be blocking you now, cause you are a troll, and not interested in any sort of actual discussion. Enjoy your miserable life.
Dumb fuck.
MAGA is leaking North, which explains a lot.
See ya at Apple's USC reveal for their phones in the future. Meanwhile, cope harder with paying over 1k for dead pixels iZealot.