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[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish I could say I'm surprised, but It's by design. People are conditioned to keep fighting each other over scraps, instead of building something together.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it comes down to there being two idealized camps in Western socialism. There’s the ones that want to see grassroots activism as snowballing to political office which snowballs to an even greater mass socialist movement. So they see any criticism of someone going through that path, even if valid and in good faith, as threatening to break the snowball.

Then there’s the camp that sees any socialist movement in the West that becomes visible or has friction when the rubber hits the road as tainted. This is often paired with a lionizing of AES countries outside of the imperial core. So they get hung up on optics and tertiary issues.

The core problem imo is that the perspective of “is socialist figure X good/pure or not?” isn’t the productive way of thinking about things, it should be “how can the socialist movement leverage figure X?”

[–] PowerLurker@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

it should be “how can the socialist movement leverage figure X?”

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