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[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It doesn't make any sense and has a lot of loose ends. They don't explain how the guy with the briefcase came to aquire a piece of the mind flayer and how he knew that it would consume Henry insinuating that he knew what it was before any of the testing they had done on psychic kids because that moment is what made Henry what he was. Dustin determines that scientists created the upside down, but also the abyss is a "planet" in the upside down and also that's where the mind flayer resides. In a place that was created by humans??? Wtf is with this fucking plot? They insinuate many times that everyone who has psychic powers is just tapping into the mind flayer's hivemind powers yet after they kill it they still have powers. How does that make any fucking sense? Overall it was fine, it was just really fucking stupid.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Buddy I think you missed a large portion of the plot if you think the Abyss is "in" the Upside Down.

SpoilerYes the Upside Down was created by scientists, but as a wormhole connecting two separate locations: a planet called the Abyss, and Hawkins. Abyss is no more "in" the Upside Down than Hawkins is. Also, they don't insinuate many times that El or her sister's power comes from tapping into the hivemind, only Will's. El's comes from having Henry's blood in her, and now we know that that blood comes with a portion of the mutation that Henry recieved after touching the stone in the briefcase. After the mindflayer dies, Will never uses his power again.

The guy with the briefcase and the mineshaft is surprisingly from a canon stage play called The First Shadow that covers Henry's childhood, but considering this is the first time he's shown in the TV show, it does feel like a random convenient plot device. I think they should have had the stage play become an episode in season 5 so we knew Henry's backstory a bit better.

[–] bless@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, a random stage play that does not play anywhere close enough for me to attend is canon?

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately yes. I never watched it, but I read the synopsis and it introduces the mineshaft and the guy with the briefcase. Pretty stupid move on their part, because I don't actually know many people who even knew the stage play existed, even among pretty big fans of the show

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I must have misunderstood the situation with the upside down being a wormhole, thank you for that. I still think that their powers should have disappeared after the mindflayer died. The way I understood it as it was presented in the show, the mindflayer became a part of Henry. If they used his blood to create more psychics they would have only spread the mindflayer's influence. If it's explained better in the play then great. Still though, there's a lot I didn't like about the last season. Like I said though, it wasn't a bad ending things just didn't add up for me.