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"It didn’t go unnoticed in Frankfurt that Visa and Mastercard suspended operations in Russia in March 2022 after the invasion of Ukraine……Thirteen of the 20 countries in the euro have no domestic card scheme. You use an international operator, or you pay in cash."

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the US is threatening to invade an EU country's (Denmark) territory, either. Would a future President Trump or President Vance threaten to shut down European financial infrastructure if it opposes an annexation of Greenland? Who knows, but better to take away that opportunity for leverage.

The plan is that you can link it to your bank account or open a special account at post offices throughout the EU. There will be phone apps for payments and digital Euro debit cards. Visa/Mastercard & Apple/Google Pay typically charge 3% fees; the digital Euro will have none. That will ensure it is speedily adopted by retailers and quickly supplants the US providers. Also worth noting its technology will be 100% European only, leaving zero vulnerability/leverage to non-Europeans.

Digital euro: what it is and how we will use the new form of cash - The European Central Bank is determined to break the US grip on card payments

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 47 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

I mean, it's gonna ultimately have to work everywhere

People don't like having cards they can't use when they travel

It's not gonna happen right away, but I don't see how it doesn't end up that way

Edit: although reading more it might not be equivalent to the existing kinds of cards as it seems to be a debit only provision (i.e. potentially lacking a lot of the protection you get from using a credit card as your main purchasing card). Will be interesting to see how this evolves

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 36 points 19 hours ago

A lot of people don't even own credit cards here, so that isn't really a massive problem.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

A credit card that only works domestically is not a deal breaker. Most of the time, people don't travel abroad. So, using a more advantageous card (more perks, less fees, etc.) domestically makes sense.

Domestic providers are a thing in several countries which are smaller than EU. Some of them don't operate internationally so this news isn't that weird

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

What makes you think this card will actually have more perks or that anybody but merchants get anything here? I get roughly 3-4% in rewards, a $100 travel voucher every year, free dash pass and Lyft memberships. My perks might not be for everyone but there are a ton of good cards out there and this seems to offer the end user few reasons to care.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Are you in the EU? My understanding is that those rewards are not available in the EU due to their much lower transaction fees. Admittedly, I'm not in the EU, so this is second hand knowledge.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

No, of that's the case then it's less of a difference.

[–] Ignot@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, the rewards they give are taken from merchants commissions. It might be great for the cc owner, but it's not very fair

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Yes I understand. But fairness rarely changes consumers behavior.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a public service for people in the EU and businesses operating in the EU paid for by EU taxpayers. So I doubt it will be rolled out outside of the EU. It still cost money to operate the service eventhough it is provided for free. If it ever gets to work outside the EU it will probably only be for people that have EU residency. No way they want to subsidize the transactions for people from outside of the EU with EU tax money.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 16 hours ago

If it works and grows, the service could be SOLD to foreign entities

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It's DoA unless the EU mandates or coerces end users. There is absolutely zero incentive for anyone but the merchants as far as I can tell.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

For merchants.

[–] Billygoat@piefed.social 0 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, for the merchants. If you were about to pay for €200 of groceries and had this card and a Visa card that gave 3% back, which would you choose to use.

[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

So merchants counter by the EU card getting a 4% discount over credit just like many do these days for cash. It’s easy to beat the rewards rate.

[–] EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Some people have preferences based on morality and values rather than a pittance of insultingly low rewards.

[–] Billygoat@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

Yep, with you there but people are people. They will see those rewards and go for it. It is the same reason why the JC Penny campaign to remove flashy sales and discounts and just price items lower failed.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 15 hours ago

Merchants and banks, and you bank may very well incentivise you

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

Ironically it's EU rules that prevent merchants passing card fees onto customers