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[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll agree when you fight for the abolition of all western countries for their crimes against humanity.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why abolition? There are some countries that need reappraisal of their past and need to compensate for it, however it is much more necessary for China, Russia, DPRK and the US. UK also to an extent. EU less so.

All you ever do is defend psychotic dictators and criticize the West when stuff aint as black and white as you pretend it is.

I at least am able to criticize the West just as much as any other country, because yes, western countries could do better. But China, Russia and DPRK aren't better. I want socialism without the ML bullshit. I want socialism with a human face.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Laugh my fucking ass out. You libs are so oblivious to the countless sins committed by the west. As late as 1960 France was butchering some million Algerians for the unforgivable sin of wanting independence, but sure, China, the country which carried out the greatest industrial revolution and elimination of poverty the world has yet seen, is so much worse.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Last time I checked, there were still not few people living in abject poverty in China and a shitload of people being worked for less than a living wage. Also whats with the rooftop safety nets at Chinese factories. Also China has like the second most billionaires in the world. What kind of "socialist" state is fine with having billionaires?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Last time I checked, there were still not few people living in abject poverty in China and a shitload of people being worked for less than a living wage.

How long ago was that?

 

Also whats with the rooftop safety nets at Chinese factories.

That wasn’t a common thing, it’s not a thing now, and it was the result of Foxconn’s illegal labor practices which the “authoritarian” state has since put the kibosh on.

Also China has like the second most billionaires in the world. What kind of “socialist” state is fine with having billionaires?

On the off-chance that your question isn’t rhetorical, previously.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also Taiwan based media warning of factories in the mainland not paying living wages and the wages being as low as 6 RMB. https://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20230302001324-260410

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course it is. The cold war never ended and neither has its propaganda. Technically this is war propaganda, because the civil war between the PRC & ROC still hasn’t officially ended, which is why Taiwan is still a part of China.

Are you going to bring links to Radio Free Asia or Adrian Zenz next? What you don’t realize is that you’ve been propagandized even more than the Chinese people themselves.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Taiwan is part of China? You are trippin. Also it's has been awhile since you've made such a ridiculous response.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Taiwan

As of January 2024, the ROC has formal diplomatic relations with 11 of the 193 United Nations member states

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The US isn't exactly a standard, because a shitload of people live in poverty in the US.

Also I am still finding German news articles as recent as 2022 that conditions at Foxconn still havent improved (the Foxconn scandal was like in 2010 to 2011) and that suicide safety nets aren't that rare at manufacturing factories in China.

Also your last link isn't working.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bullshit articles about China are a de rigueur for Western media, because god forbid you should encounter the threat of a good example.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, you seriously using Chomsky as a source? Dude is a total hack and bootlicker. Also dude was friends with Jeffrey Epstein.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He is a hack, but probably not in the way that you think.

Sometimes he’s right, though.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

China is not all evil, but holy shit you need to get that boot out of your mouth. Also why the fuck do I want to believe state media when it is in their interest to hide the bad sides of their country? China based sources are either state controlled or bullshit right wing or Falun Gong based news sites like Epoch Times.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I don’t have a boot in my mouth, and nobody asked you to believe state media. In fact the links I posted were Western corporate media and the United Nations. You’re raging over a straw man you’ve made up in your head.