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[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The title is in reference to the fact that they use something they are ~~uneducated~~ consciously miseducated about as their tool for hatred.

FTFY. Bigotry requires education - an education presided over by reactionary actors intent on protecting the status quo.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how do you think bigotry should be solved under socialism/communism (mostly)?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not spending vast amounts of treasure and energy to create them in the first place seems like a logical first step to me.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Communism will make everyone kind and unbigoted?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just say you prefer bigotry because it protects your privilege and be done with it.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No no, I think communism would be far better than capitalism, and I don't think I have anything to fear from a system that makes us equal and caters to our basic needs, but I have no idea how it would turn people kind and thoughtful instead of bigoted. You seem to think it will fix every wrong in the world. Do please explain why or how it changes the people rather than their circumstances.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, let me get this straight... you are claiming to not understand how not spoonfeeding people reactionary propaganda from birth might have a dramatic effect on said people's bigotry?

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The absence of the hate programming would be great, but it's not just the government that communicates and I didn't know that mass censorship of hate-fuelled points of view was part of the plan.

Maybe I'd be on board with that kind of thing, but I worry slightly that just as when you lock up "criminal illegal immigrants" en masse you invariably end up locking up people who are none of these three things, if you lock up people who spread "illegal criminal counter-revolutionary talk" you end up locking up vast numbers of people who don't support the party with quite the correct degree of enthusiasm or who are just having a bad day or year.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but it’s not just the government that communicates

Yes, and?

Reactionary propaganda is a tool of class warfare - and it would be a pretty inefficient one if it was only the state performing it.

I didn’t know that mass censorship of hate-fuelled points of view was part of the plan.

Do you think we should also censor chickens to stop them from producing square eggs, perhaps?

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you think we should also censor chickens to stop them from producing square eggs, perhaps?

What?!

I don't think that when you eliminate inequality you necessarily eliminate hate.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What?!

A yes or no answer would do.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was clearly a rhetorical question, and it illuminated nothing. Again with the failure to explain.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was clearly a rhetorical question,

Really?

I want to know whether you think it's a good idea to wage structural violence on chickens to prevent them from doing something they have no damn reason to do in the first place.

Doesn't seem very rhetorical to me.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Oh in that case, then yes, definitely. Wage structural violence on the chickens. Can't have them doing something they have no damn reason to do, it might offend the black holes or cause the pagans to wear red too often.