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Is horror punk a part of goth, or does it just share a visual aesthetic (piefed.world)
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I know what the really early goth bands were (the smiths, banshees, etc) and how it started primarily as post punk, but outside of that im pretty confused on what bands/genres are a part of goth. It doesn’t help that there are a lot of bands (usually alternative metal) that are liked by/associated with goth but have nothing to do with the actual subculture. (Learning about goth so far has felt like the inverse of learning about emo, where I started out knowing mostly newer bands and understood the genre more as I learned more about the early foundational bands, whereas with goth I only really know the early bands and am completely lost from there)

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Depends on how prescriptivist you are.

If you’re a purist, goth is “gothic rock”, a dark post-punk genre from the UK. US death rock (which arose in parallel) doesn’t count, industrial/EBM/synthpop doesn’t, apocalyptic folk doesn’t, and metal is its own thing. Anything from outside the UK is disqualified, and anything from outside of Leeds has a barrier to overcome. Emo is right out. Horror punk and psychobilly would be similarly not goth.

That said, most people aren’t purists these days, and bands that sound like First And Last-era Sisters of Mercy are no longer the norm. Industrial/EBM and the darker end of synthpop have been assimilated into goth for decades. Heck, apparently goth cumbia is a big thing in California nowadays. So you can probably claim horror punk as goth-adjacent.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Goth is such a strange genre because it perversely evolved into a scene of conformists who listen to completely different music than we initially did, and outright reject the pioneers (me, boohoo).

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, I love goth cumbia, and yeah it's weird. But I like that it brought all these folks together who might ordinarily not have hung out.

Is it really goth? I don't care so much, I enjoy hanging and talking with people. There's genuine art and spirit to it, vs just looking sexy or something.