this post was submitted on 20 Dec 2025
234 points (98.8% liked)

PC Gaming

12990 readers
638 users here now

For PC gaming news and discussion. PCGamingWiki

Rules:

  1. Be Respectful.
  2. No Spam or Porn.
  3. No Advertising.
  4. No Memes.
  5. No Tech Support.
  6. No questions about buying/building computers.
  7. No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
  8. No Let's Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
  9. No off-topic posts/comments, within reason.
  10. Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates. (Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources. If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

A shame imo

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] uymai@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Hmph, I assumed a cheaper oled model would be introduced, or maybe hold off until whatever new version they release

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (11 children)

until whatever new version they release

I suspect it will be a while before we see Steam Deck 2.0. The Steam Deck is plenty strong for what it needs to be, and the AI bubble means components are not inexpensive.

Also, for anyone who doesn’t know, if you have a gaming PC you can install Moonlight on your Deck and Apollo (or Sunshine) on your PC and stream the PC to the Deck. As long as you have WiFi 6 or 6e you should have minimal latency, and you can get significantly better graphics and battery life on the Deck. Really makes gaming in bed or on the couch even better!

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Steam also has a built-in streaming feature that doesn't require any additional software.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep! And Steam Link is fine, but Moonlight/Apollo gives you more options and, in my experience, better quality.

So for example I can tell Moonlight to have Apollo send 1440p to the Steam Deck, so that after chroma subsampling I still end up with an entirely unique pixel for each on the Deck. That alone makes things look more crisp. I can also have Apollo set up such that my PC uses Moonlight as the only display when I’m using it.

(There are far more options I haven’t really dug into.)

[–] subignition@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does that cause problems with rendering small text?

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

I haven’t noticed any, but maybe? Very fine details can get combined, so it’s possible. But I’ve been playing Diablo 4 that way recently and haven’t complained.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

after chroma subsampling

Cool info, but I'm not sure about this part. Do you mean downsampling instead? Because chroma subsampling doesn't make sense in this context.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In 4:2:2 subsampling (or lower), information is lost. It’s not much information, but if I’m streaming 1280x800 or 1280x720, each pixel is partial defined by the ones around it.

If I stream 2560x1440, when reduced to 1280x720 each pixel is the combination of those 4 subsampled pixels. Meaning each individual pixel is independent from its neighbors.

It doesn’t sound like it should mean much, and maybe I’m wrong entirely about the reason for the lower detail when streaming 1280x800, but the difference was apparent to me (at least when I tested it with Cyberpunk 2077). I could very well be wrong, I’m not an expert. There could be other causes. But either way streaming at 1440p looks better on the 1280x800 screen than streaming 1280x800. (Except with 1440p the aspect ratio means small black bars at top and bottom).

Now that I think about it, I might be able to turn off the subsampling in the stream. Might be a good way to test it if I can.

[–] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But either way streaming at 1440p looks better on the 1280x800 screen than streaming 1280x800.

I am more into the encoding side, not streaming, but a 1440p source on a 800p screen will always look better than a 800p source.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Thank you for letting me know I’m not crazy! 😅

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (11 replies)