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So the human race should just stop existing? I'm not saying you individually need to have kids. But some people will and they shouldn't be villianized for it.
There are a lot of things you can do to make things better, without having kids. Once things are under control, then that will be another question.
The part of the movie that literally argues in favor of eugenics isn't really something I'd agree with.
Great movie, though.
Ive never really saw it like that. I felt it was more a point about "intelligence" breeding uncertainty and using logic to find the "perfect time". Worlds on fire? We wait. Weird guys is pres? We wait. Were not financially stable? We wait. And then they waited until it was too late. Meanwhile "less intelligent" people, although I think just more irresponsible, are banging out a bakers dozen per couple at a rate that the waiters can't possibly hope to come close too. That combined with societal problems like lack of education, corporation looting of our country, cuts to programs that care for people and children, especially making sure kids go to school and dont get left behind. Its all gone, and the few places you can find it are also the places who look at the world and decide to wait, resulting in worst birth rates.
All this combining to make a situation where breeding with reckless abandon is rewarded by society, because the "intelligent" humans are so seldom having kids, that theyre outnumbered 13 to 1 at least. Thus the world goes about how you'd expect.
The thing I dont like is the weight of intelligence in this movie. Yeah its a main theme, but there's so much nuance. Fish are great at swimming, but can't climb a tree. My boy that had 13 kids iirc was a football star in his school, probly knows how to fix things, cars plumb8ng electrical etc etc. Or has some other skill that he excels in. I dont like that humans that dont know calculus and trig are stupid. Smart couple probly can't fix their stove, probly get take advantage of by the "stupid" at the car dealer. We'll whos stupid know.
I think there's more nuance to this film than meets the eye, but because media literacy is at an all time low, people only see it as haha stupid people (the people im already against are the stupid) and they destroy society. I dont think thats all this movie is
Just my two cents, sry for the wall of text.
Love that movie too. It's really unfortunate since the nature v. nurture aspects seem reasonable. They could have just left the IQs out and it would be just as funny.
I try not to think about the eugenics angle, and just look at it as "imagine anti-intellectualism, anti-education, and hyper-consumerism to an absurd degree. lol that would never happen amirite?"
Sigh.