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[–] Dimand@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is true that after he was disarmed he went and got another gun. The gun number argument feels like an ineffective bandaid though.

Is the collector with 20+ break action shotguns that are all over 60 years old and enjoys showing them off at the trap range is a worry, almost certainly not.

What about some random guy with two very similar straight pull shotguns that can easily be modified to a higher capacity mag. And who just put in an application for their 3rd and 4th very similar guns (within say a hypothetical 4 gun limit).

I would hope that the second person gets a much closer look over than the first. This is where an electronic national register and the resources to have closer individual scrutiny would be far more effective.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The gun number argument feels like an ineffective bandaid though

Think of it less as a bandaid, and more as one small tool in a long list of tools used to prevent things like this.

And whoops. I actually started my last comment to make one main point, but added in a bunch of other points along with it. And then forgot to get to the main reason I started replying. So here it is:

I would feel bad if I inherited my great great grandfather’s still functional shotgun and had to destroy a 120 year old antique

Present laws treat antiques very differently from more modern guns with more utilitarian purpose. Future laws should continue to do this, IMO.

Along with moving away from a class-based system into a case-by-case system, perhaps rather than a specific number of guns, the law should include, as one of the factors in the case-by-case assessment, why the person needs an additional gun. If it's filling a niche that the person very clearly cannot fill with their current guns (and which the person has a demonstrated need to fill), then allow it. Multiple of the same or similar type of weapon is less likely to be a valid reason than owning a rifle for pigs, an antique collectible, and a clay pigeon shotgun.

[–] Dimand@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I like the idea of a case by case assessment. I feel like they should have already been doing this in the background and questioning people with sus armouries.

But I strongly disagree with the removal of the class system. I know it will get abused and some yahoo will successfully argue they need a semi auto rifle for some stupid reason and get it without having to go through the current class C license requirements.

Our class system is very effective and shouldn't be watered down because of this.

Edit: basically, in the list of tools, keep the classes, they are very good but might need some updating to put more in class C.