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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The annoying prevalence of this meme suggests to me that an alarming number of people lack even a middle-school understanding of basic arithmetic.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago

Wait until you hear what the average reading level is.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not arithmetic at all, it's just about convention aka how to communicate math. The author didn't make themselves clear enough so people misunderstand what calculation they mean.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

In mathematics and computer programming, the order of operations is a collection of conventions about which arithmetic operations to perform first in order to evaluate a given mathematical expression.

The order of operations is part of arithmetic. Although, the memes about it are certainly not good mathematics communication.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a useful distinction to be made. The order of operations is different between conventional written maths, calculators, reverse polish notation, python, etc. In contrast there is no disagreement over what the result of any individual binary operations is

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The order of operations is different between conventional written maths, calculators, reverse polish notation, python, etc.

The notation might be different, but the rules are universal

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rules are about how you interpret the notation, so that makes no sense.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rules are about how you interpret the notation

No, the notation definitions are about how to interpret the notation. The rules are about how to do the Maths.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So if you have one "notation definition" as you call it which says that 2+2*3 means ”first add two to two, then multiply by three" and another which says "first multiply two by three, then add it to two", why on earth do the "rules" have anything further to say about order of operations?

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

and another which says “first multiply two by three, then add it to two”

No we don't. We have another notation which says to do paired operations (equivalent to being in brackets) first.

why on earth do the “rules” have anything further to say about order of operations?

Because if you don't obey them you get wrong answers 🙄

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it’s just about convention aka how to communicate math

They're rules actually.

The author didn’t make themselves clear enough

Yes they did, someone screwed up the answers, just like in this book...

misunderstand what calculation they mean

There's only 1 possible answer to it.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry but there is no math government that can enforce rules, and the order of operations isn't intrinsic either. It is just something people agreed upon volununtarily, aka a convention

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sorry but there is no math government that can enforce rules

Maths textbooks do. Try looking in some

the order of operations isn’t intrinsic either

Yes they are! 😂

It is just something people agreed upon volununtarily, aka a convention

Nope. Literally proven rules

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My dude sit in a university lecture for math majors.

Your school books arent gospel

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 10 hours ago

My dude sit in a university lecture for math majors

You know I have a Masters in Maths, right? 🤣

Your school books arent gospel

Proofs are, and these things are very easy to prove 🙄

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 10 hours ago

My dude sit in a university lecture for math majors

You know I have a Masters in Maths, right? 🤣

Your school books arent gospel

Proofs are, and these things are very easy to prove 🙄