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Other philosophy communities have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. [ x ]
"I thunk it so I dunk it." - Descartes
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No, it's a terrible destination, because all you've done is articulate an inconsistent position.
Maybe you should actually make the smallest effort to understand what is being proposed, rather just assuming your some big smart boy who automatically knows better than all the dumb-dumb professional philosophers.
You're proposing an entity with my exact form that does not contain my exact mind state. That cannot exist. That is a category error. You are assigning a string variable to fucking integer.
You need to define what you mean by a P Zombie exactly like me that does not possess consciousness. What does that mean? I think consciousness is in the brain. Define how its not? Even if your argument is NOT a category error, what you are relaying to me is a category error. Should be solvable through syntax alone.
It does not contain the qualia associated with your mind state
You really love begging the question.
Fuck off back to reddit with these completely empty cliches.
Damn, I wonder if the original paper might have done that. Guess you'll never know, given your refusal to do any actual investigation before asserting your right to speak.
If we were to recreate a P Zombie of me right now why would they ever respond to you without qualia?
DAMN STRAIGHT. Finally you're making some sense. Why would a P Zombie EVER read that fucking paper? The assumption with a P Zombie is they only do whats biologically imperative to survive. Paper never needed. Writing paper... never needed. Reading paper? What is reading? Not needed. Avoid car.
"How can chat gpt respond to me if it's not conscious".
Once again: because they are behaviourally identical to you.
Ok. Just straight up admitting you don't know shit and you're proud of it. Just a hillbilly afraid those damn scary books.
What part about their homeostasis dictates that responding to you is necessary to achieve a fruitful life?
DAMN STRAIGHT. And you're just a city slicker too afraid of them country Jays that have too experience with the real world... many such cases.
I beg of you: descibe to me a P Zombie that is a physical clone of me that doesn't have my mental state. Describe to me how that P Zombie is uniquely different from the version of me that you froze of me 20 minutes ago. Where does the distinction lie? You say theres no consciousness, I say theres no way for that to be? Again, me arguing on hexbear is the OPPOSITE OF FUCKING. I should be FUCKING right now. I am getting the OPPOSITE of DICK.
The same as yours. The only difference is that they don't experience qualia
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Read. The. Fucking. Paper
I did. Its wrong. It explains no FUNCTIONAL reason for me to be arguing with you right now instead of getting my bump and grind on. We can theorize a robot that does 1:1 what I do in real life,. That doesnt mean I was written in fucking c#
You have already outright stated that you did not read the paper while repeatedly demanding people explain to you concepts that the paper explained. You are clearly now lying about having read it, just like you admitted lying about having written a masters thesis in physics.