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Other philosophy communities have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. [ x ]

"I thunk it so I dunk it." - Descartes


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Personally I think it's silly as hell. Qualia is obviously a biological component of experience... Not some weird thing that science will never be able to put in to words.

I've been listening to a lot of psychology podcasts lately and for some reason people seem obsessed with the idea despite you needing to make the same logical leaps to believe it as any sort of mysticism... Maybe I am just tripping idk

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[โ€“] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How exactly are you defining "collecting diagnostic data" without sneaking in teleological thinking?

[โ€“] itsPina@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I am not sure what this means. Are you suggesting an agent collecting diagnostic data is teleological? Or are you suggesting that the need for an agent to collect diagnostic data is teleological?

I can imagine plenty of things that collect data that aren't teleological but I am probably just not understanding your question.

A universal will is inherently teleological. An individual will that developed randomly within the universe doesn't have to be.