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What do you think of panpsychism/the hard problem of consciousness? (hexbear.net)

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Personally I think it's silly as hell. Qualia is obviously a biological component of experience... Not some weird thing that science will never be able to put in to words.

I've been listening to a lot of psychology podcasts lately and for some reason people seem obsessed with the idea despite you needing to make the same logical leaps to believe it as any sort of mysticism... Maybe I am just tripping idk

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[–] itsPina@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think what you are describing in your last paragraph is the medical alienation I was talking about. I dont know if thats the right term... people seem to love that word lol

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

kinda sorta? but for me deja vu was always (mainly) auditory (with thoughts sprinkled in, so i "remember" thoughts and feelings "again"), e.g. i perceive words i'm hearing and my own words as an exact match to "long forgotten memory/dream" and start to know what would happen (audiotorily, with matched tone/voice etc) exactly but don't know where my hands would be, for example, and don't feel that strong deja vu of "this is where my hands would be" according to this "memory" when i see them. Actions and visuals are not primal in experience, compared to third person body experience, where you concentrate on actions and hands (at least i think so?), where it's puppet like/are these my hands type dealio.

*(i do have a funny deja vu story, where i was alone at work, started feeling deja vu from some sounds and guess what i "remembered" hearing?)

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ringing in the ears. stellar work brain, fucking thanks. if deja vu was real woo-woo shit, i would have abandoned it right then and there, what kind of prediction is this.

(i don't know if it's quirk of my perception of focusing on sounds/thoughts, but people usually sharply separate those two phenomenons, where deja vu is as you said woo-woo shit, while third person view is scary as shit typically. although people observing their own operations in the out of body type thingy usually describe extreme calmness and fatalism, which seems very close to third person phenomenon on description, maybe it's due to drugs/dreams vs actual reality?)