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Other philosophy communities have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. [ x ]

"I thunk it so I dunk it." - Descartes


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Personally I think it's silly as hell. Qualia is obviously a biological component of experience... Not some weird thing that science will never be able to put in to words.

I've been listening to a lot of psychology podcasts lately and for some reason people seem obsessed with the idea despite you needing to make the same logical leaps to believe it as any sort of mysticism... Maybe I am just tripping idk

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[–] PowerLurker@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

ah i should clarify, i meant "epistemic skepticism" rather than the general way we use the term skepticism, which is to say "there's nothing (or very little) we can Truly Know" (i.e. i came to the conclusion that, while philosophy is often fun and enriching, these questions are by and large unanswerable). living as more general skeptics is i'm sure how a lot of us became socialists. 

but the language around things being untestable as a way to dismiss them is kind of what i'm getting at, it seems you're operating with "scientific method = direct path to philosophical knowledge" as an a priori truth, which i think misunderstands a lot of what philosophy is about and the distinctions between the two fields. tons of philosophical questions are untestable by scientific standards, and the benchmark of testability already rests on a lot of interesting assumptions about the nature of & trustworthiness of consciousness (since scientific experiments rely on observations through the mechanisms of consciousness).

tbf, the impression i get is that a lot of modern analytic philosophers do the same thing (taking certain presuppositions of science as a priori truths in philosophy), casting philosophy as a "handmaiden of science" as they say. my cynical theory is that this has at least as much to do with inter-academic politics as it does genuinely felt positions, given how much capitalism favors STEM over the humanities. 

[–] itsPina@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

but the language around things being untestable as a way to dismiss them is kind of what i'm getting at, it seems you're operating with "scientific method = direct path to philosophical knowledge" as an a priori truth, which i think misunderstands a lot of what philosophy is about and the distinctions between the two fields.

I see what you mean now with the skepticism. We are at an impasse. Either consciousness is emergent from the brain, and science can explain it. Or it's foundational, and our complete lack of other higher consciousness beings leaves us wholly unable to further understand the foundational nature of it, which basically falls into solipsism.

Though I will say having an a priori assumption that the scientific method will pan out has paid off so far. Not sure that's true for the a priori assumption that all a priori assumptions are shaky though :^)