Even in worst matched seasons, there is protection. But, we encourage people to walk around sick without masks and not even wash their hands after going to the toilet any more. We used to teach hygiene in schools, we even had a U of T school of hygiene we shut down.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry but in what world are we teaching kids not to wash their hands? This seems a little hyperbolic to claim.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In what world? How about the real world?

https://www.cdc.gov/clean-hands/data-research/facts-stats/index.html

19% even "wash", but 1 in 20 properly wash.

Historically, parents only vaccinate kids in Ontario at about 28% -you think these shit 72% parents are teaching how to properly wash hands?

We shut down the School of Hygiene in 1975.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 4 points 4 months ago

This is not teaching them to wash. It's not teaching them NOT to.

One implies omission of responsibility, the other implies a more sinister agenda. There is a difference.

For what it is worth I generally agree that we are not being responsible in how we educate....welll...anyone.

However, I do not think there is a cadre of humans pushing an anti-washing agenda because hygiene is too woke, though I fully acknowledge that the potential for something as stupid as this to be become real is high.

[–] honc@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Why are you yelling at CBC journalists? They make this very clear in this very article:

The latest available vaccine effectiveness estimates show the current shot is up to 75 per cent effective at preventing hospital visits in children aged two to 17 years, and 30 to 40 per cent effective in adults, said the WHO.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

19% effectiveness does not offer much protection.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

19-0 = 19, please, someone check my math.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The vaccine offers protection. That’s how vaccines work.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Only if they guess the correct strains for the year, which they have to do about 6 months in advance.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

...Only if they guess the correct strains

No guessing is involved. They base the Northern vax on the prevalent strains from the Southern hemisphere (and vice versa). Unfortunately a nasty varient started making the rounds shortly after the Northern vax was in production.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Yup, exactly.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

An educated guess is still technically a guess

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If only there was data to predict it, and scientists who are qualified to make vaccines.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What does that have to do with it? Doesn’t mean they are perfect and get it right every year.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

The US stopped this data analysis in 2025. They swim in shit instead.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have the day you vaccinated for.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Of course I have my vax. Just don’t have high hope for much protection this year.