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I think Europe is more mentally fucked than the US ngl.
American polls at least show people are blaming everything on trump and they hate him.
Europeans are blaming everything on America and they legit think that if they stop being American vassals they'll be able to compete against China and the US
It's literally mass psychosis
What gets me is that the worse Europe's situation becomes, the more arrogant EU liberals act.
You'd think that becoming vassalized by the country you believed to be your undying ally just last year, having a stagnating economy, being outsmarted by all your geopolitical enemies, having no viable military force to speak of and turning into a literal joke on the world stage would have a humbling effect. But no, EU-stanning liberals, as well as the English, are just ignorant to all these realities.
Europe's fate is already sealed, their decline into complete irrelevance is inevitable. And a significant part of this is their refusal to acknowledge their true situation.
yet they overwhelmingly support militarization (buying American weapons) and NATO (supporting American imperialism). So turns out they don't really oppose America in any way and will never actually escape their vassaldom
The European populace and bourgeois have completely different opinions
The population here is angry at trump so the politicians will say stuff about how they're Europe first and slava Ukraine and then do nothing about it
The politicians after doing that procede to bend over, and lube their assholes for doggy style with trump
But my point is all the slava ukraine shit is pro-American and doing exactly what America wants. Europeans think they are being rebellious against daddy but they are just falling for his reverse psychology and doing what he wants.
If you look at polls of the European populace, not it’s leaders, you still see alarmingly high trends in warmongering. The people of Europe demand blood and are chauvinists overall, not just their leaders
They have somehow psyched themselves out where they think being super pro-NATO is sticking it to the USA, when NATO is the USA. They are delusional
I don't disagree with you that they're being stupid and doing what America wants.
But I live in Ireland
So many people here are super pro NATO and the war in Ukraine
They legitimately believe trump is gonna hand over Ukraine and that then the EU and Canada will fight Russia
It's literally marvel movie mentality
It's the inherent contradictions of Nationalism, which is the result of unwillingness to socialize.
Just within the EU itself there's 24 individual, capitalist, nations. That is just never going to work. Think of all the contradictions that arise from 24 individual capitalist nations each competing with each other. Lithuania is having a panic attack just thinking about how to force people to use their language, because it's materially completely worthless.
What can they do? Nothing. Nobody cares about them and why would they? That's something dirty socialists do and Lithuania, including a lot of Lithuanians thinks that's fascism. They can't deny entry to migrant, they can't force their population to stay at home, the cat is already out of the bag you can't put the cat back in, they will never have the military might to defend their sovereignty and even if they forge temporary alliances with their neighbors against a common enemy, you can bet 100% that after the war whoever has the biggest military/economy left will take control of the territory the moment that is more profitable than peace, there's nothing they can do and that applies to most nations in Europe to a greater and lesser extent.
I really don't like to be pessimistic, but that's just the reality.
In ireland liberals here are obsessed with doing nothing to keep the language alive (so are the so called "Irish nationalist socialists" tbh)
But it's over
Nothing can be done
They don't realize we live in an international world with large scale immigration being common
You cannot force people to stay in one tiny fucking country and speak a tiny minority language,
The minority languages are doomed to die by the world becoming ever more interconnected.
The thing is, materially, these small European states shouldn't exist, the world is very clearly moving towards larger more organized states.
The only way the EU could work in the future is if it federalized under socialism but it can't because nationalism is too rampant
They could have preserved their cultures and the cultures of others, let them evolve as time goes, but they are unable to accept peaceful coexistence.
They should try to not be yank rug carpet, at least they have a chance at it
Any move away from the US will be violent and require the dismantling of the welfare state in Europe.
Europes economy sucks and they don't make anything and are more behind the us economically
They are working hard on it
They aren't doing that to move away from the us though they're doing it because daddy trump said so
That or immigrants