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Ukraine wouldn't have so much western military aid if Russia didn't invade. Ukraine wouldn't want to be part of NATO so desperately if Russia didn't invade. I think it's Russia's fault NATO is expanding.
Nah it was kind of internal paranoia and a fear of Russia from former Warsaw pact states that lead to NATO expansion, they often weren’t forced to join. However the United States never had any problem with this and always allowed them to join knowing that Russia at the time was essentially to weak to do anything about it. As John McCaine famously said „Russia is just a gas station with nukes“ so the United States kept meddling thinking that even if Russia did invade they would easily destroy them. Basically the United States decided that winning the Cold War wasn’t enough and that instead of allowing Europe and Russia to integrate their economies and technology with each other they would rather keep us divided and fighting (imagine what kind of a huge power block Europe and Russia would of been together also we gotta keep buying American weapons and justify the occupation of our countries by US troops somehow after all the military industrial complex freaks have to eat as well)
At some point after several years of covert war in Ukraine Putin freaked the fuck out and invaded and now you have the joy of people on the internet treating this war like a football game where they pick their favourite side and shill for them as much as possible.
Both sides in that war fucking suck millions of people have died most of Europes economies have been struggling because of it and we now have to deal with a lot of political polarisation that both sides have been pushing. If you really do care about the proletariat of either of these nations you would never support this or any other shitty war, because at the end of the day the ruling classes decided they wanted this war not the masses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bThaR3A3Xc
There is a pretty cool song made by Laibach made in 1994
I don't want this war. That's why I want Russia to go home. Ukraine can't go home, because Russia's there. So the war ends if Russia goes home.
Anyways pretty funny because I’ve heard young Ukrainian men say the same to me. Of course they ran away from combat and have money, so they’re always very comfortable to send other people to die for them.
Just say you want war 🙄 don’t need to be all coy about it.
What function did NATO serve after the dissolution of the UDSSR? How did Russia turn from foe (UDSSR) to friend (Russian Federation) to foe again? Which enemy did NATO after the dissolution of the UDSSR have in order to justify the defensive alliance? What role do you think the military industrial complex played in this?
These aren't rhetorical questions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Sealioning is when you question someones understanding of a topic that they are very confident about