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Discussing this with libs, they generally agree that hard borders are something generally bad and should be abolished in principle, but they believe that's utopian because they are chauvinistic enough to believe their country is literally the best thing on Earth and obviously anyone from anywhere else, especially poorer places, will want to migrate there if allowed, and therefore welfare disappears because now we have to give healthcare to three times as many.
This is the lib reasoning I've encountered.
there might be more blowback if there was no border apparatus, but the solution to that is not doing the shit that causes blowback.
Yeah, who thought that destroying the homelands of billions of people would make some of those people want to emigrate to non-fucked lands
Specifically in Europe where everyone just loves Schengen. Unless you are an immigrant, then you should be kept out of it. or if it absolutely must be because not even they can argue you aren't an valid asylum seeker, restricted to at most one city.